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Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to politics@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 months ago

Trump readies US troops for ground invasion in Mexico to go after cartels: report

www.independent.co.uk

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Trump readies US troops for ground invasion in Mexico to go after cartels: report

www.independent.co.uk

Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]@hexbear.net to politics@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 months ago
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Officials say the strikes aren’t meant to destabilize Mexico’s government
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  • 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    kelly Putting the cartel before the horse

    • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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      Genuinely one of the best of these I’ve seen all year

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        catgirl-salute I’M DOING MY PART!

  • ClimateStalin [they/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Surely two ground invasions of countries that are capable of striking within the continental US will go just fine

    • jack [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Let’s see him go ahead and invade Canada while he’s at it

      • ClimateStalin [they/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Also Venezuela is a part of the Rio Pact (and so is the US actually), an “attack on one is an attack on all” mutual defense pact, which includes almost all of South America.

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    surely attempting two separate ground invasions is sane behavior

    • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Name more iconic duo than fascists and two-front war.

      • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Fascists and a three front war!

      • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Fascists and getting owned

  • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Watching this country get double teamed by two failed invasions at once is gonna be so funny…

    Also I know it’s an excuse for racism, but surely some conservatives have to wonder why people end up on drugs? Maybe solving the source of the problem instead of fighting symptoms would be better 🤔

    Maybe this is why this stuff can drive me insane. No one thinks about things beyond the surface level!

    • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      some conservatives have to wonder why people end up on drugs

      Their answer is eugenics.

    • XxFemboy_Stalin_420_69xX [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      if they thought about why people do things or why things happen, they wouldn’t be conservatives

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      two failed invasions at once

      mission-accomplished

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    US propaganda machine will not be able to propagandise 2 wars simultaneously, it already struggles with one.

    • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Is it struggling though?

      • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        Barely hanging onto Ukraine narratives. Failed to control Palestine narratives. Lost control of anti-China narratives.

        Hell yeah it’s struggling.

        • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          Barely hanging onto Ukraine narratives

          Really not seeing this, chuds are split 50/50 but every lib is a diehard slava Ukraina.

          Failed to control Palestine narratives

          I’d agree with this

          Lost control of anti-China narratives.

          This is so-so. Only the libs that went to rednote seem to be less racist about it. The rest think China killed every Muslim in the country. Chuds are all pro-nuking China because communism and Chinese bad.

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            Really not seeing this, chuds are split 50/50

            This is still pretty important to a Republican administration

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              It may be more than that among the Republican base. There’s a split between base and political elites about Ukraine support there the same way there’s a growing split in the Democratic party between base and elites on Palestine.

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        hard to struggle if the only effort is typing a prompt into Sora

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    This level of cringe felt appropriate

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    If the US can’t deal with drug dealers in their own country, what makes them think they will be able to hit them in México lmao, it’s obviously BS to justify an unjustifiable military invasion.

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      Dawg they can’t even keep drugs out of the prisons

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    So he’s sending troops to Nigeria, Mexico and Venezuela at the same time while also gearing up for another Israel / Iran conflict opening up and troops not getting paid?

    sit-back-and-enjoy

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      Not to mention stationing ICE/National Guard in DC, LA, Portland and Chicago.

      And making sure to keep Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Taiwan and various Pacific Island bases to keep Chinese influence in check.

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      Greenland is up there going side-eye-1

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      While also (begrudgingly) giving support to Ukraine, yes. Nothing could go wrong.

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    Everyone I know here has a gun, good luck with that

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    JSOC turf war? They just want a bigger slice of the drug trade

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    i wonder how much of this south america adventurism bullshit is an attempt to manufacture a real migration/refugee crisis to bolster the legitimacy of ICE

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    i’m honestly surprised there haven’t been more instances of “cartels behead a bunch of border patrol crackers” but I guess the cartels probably haven’t wanted to antagonize them further

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      it would not surprise me if a shitload of CBP crackers are in the pocket of some cartels already. an embarassing amount of their security forces are ex-military. hell, one of the cartels was founded by ex-military that were specifically trained by the US supposedly for drug interdiction. it’s amazing how the skillset of state sponsored terror dovetail with independent, for-profit terror.

      i’m pretty sure any targets the US decides to strike in mexico are going to be unrelated to cartel activity, and be focused on destabilization of the civil order to induce a coup for a government that will more eagerly lick the boot of american empire… so potentially a comprador government that is more integrated with the cartel… organized crime syndicates with influence over undemocratic governments tend towards reactionary politics.

      • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]@hexbear.net
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        I expect to see a newly minted opposition leader in the next few weeks in the American press.

        • SexUnderSocialism [she/her]@hexbear.net
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          New interim president of Mexico

          spoiler

          guaido

      • purpleworm [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        it would not surprise me if a shitload of CBP crackers are in the pocket of some cartels already

        Considering that most drugs that enter the US through the southern border go through checkpoints rather than being snuck through in the middle of the desert or whatever, this is probably true.

        • THEPH0NECOMPANY [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          CBP just uses us-foreign-policy as their security check so all the drugs are just smuggled by flashbang in a stripped out sedan.

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            Yeah the vast majority are just hidden in normal ass cars driven by white US citizens who aren’t even paused

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        https://www.kpbs.org/news/public-safety/2010/03/11/mexican-drug-cartels-infiltrating-us-border-immigr

        This article is from 2010, it’s been going on for a long while. Massive expansion during the W Bush admin lead to them doing shoddy background checks or even forgoing them altogether, making it really easy for cartels to infiltrate

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        ms-13 was a normal stupid street gang til Ernesto Deras, a fed, militarized it.

        > The gang became a more traditional criminal organization under the auspices of Ernesto Deras. Deras was a former member of Salvadoran special forces, trained in Panama by United States Green Berets. On gaining leadership of an MS-13 clique in 1990, he used his military training to discipline the gang and improve its logistical operations. It was after this point that the gang began to grow in power.

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    So is this while he’s not paying them or

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    This whole thing feels like that slimy salesman technique of exaggerating your demands so that you negotiate down into what you actually want.

    “I’ll explode Iran, Venezuela, Mexico AND Nigeria!😈😈😈”

    …

    “Ok we’ve got a deal, I’ll explode only Mexico and half Venezuela, let’s shake hands on it no backsies 😌”

    • miz [any, any]@hexbear.net
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      negotiation, marketing, and compliance technique called rejection-then-retreat

    • casskaydee [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      The Art of the Deal, baby

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    how many fronts will he open at once?

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