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Lots of venture capital money behind it. I wonder how quickly the enshitification will begin.
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Someone will have to let me know because I’m not wasting my time there. I’m going to keep wasting my time here. It’s a fantastic waste of time
I wonder how quickly the enshitification will begin.
Lots of venture capital money behind it.
It already began.
We left Digg for Reddit about 20 years ago because of enshitification, the same way we left Reddit for the Fediverse recently, there is no way I am going back to Digg!
No but this time will be different I’m sure!! I’m sure they’ve learned their lessons from their past mistakes. Trust me on this… I’m a dolphin
Mistakes may happen, but I’m sure they won’t do any evil shit on porpoise.
I specifically remember the exodus from DIGG as the start of reddit sucking.
When was that? Based on life events I’ve reconstructed this timeline of my hangout sites
- late 1990s to mid 2000s was slahdot
- around 2006ish digg came into my life and was great for a some years. At least for memes and generic dopamining on funny pictures. I think I hung around until about 2014 or so, while spicing it up with cracked.com
- 2014ish 9GAG started having more of my type of content. After a few years 9GAG became just automated reposts of r/funny, and talking about that got you censored. Kinda like what reddit is doing now.
- 2017ish I switched to reddit, when 9GAG just became too embarrassingly bad.
- july 21st 2023 I started trying to figure out lemmy. BTW u/spez is a pedophile piss baby.
Maybe I was just trailing behind you others. Was I the one to ruin your experience? Why would you accuse me of that you insensitive clod? Anyway, in that case I’ll go eat crayons in the corner and shitpost on .ml
Interesting, I had my 9GAG phase around 2011-12. Never really used Digg, just saw the front page a couple times, then started dabbling in Reddit in 2015, then Lemmy in 2023 with the blackout protests. (I almost said those achieved nothing, but I think that’s probably when most current Lemmy users joined, so 🤷)
Sorry
-A Slashdot to Digg to Lemmy refugee
Same here 😂
What, Digg was before Reddit? Thought Reddit was the OG forum of the global internet.
Before Reddit and everything was forum sites. I use many of them today.
Digg based the voting off of a simplified version of Slashdot’s. Except they let everyone vote. Reddit then took that concept and added user generated categories and user moderating.
Before Digg was Kuro5hin and Slashdot
I AM learning something New every day! Thanks!
even their tagline the frontpage of the internet is digg’s and they took it back
I dug Digg once upon a time. When they tried to undermine the power users, I found Reddit. Then Reddit enshittified. Now I got Lemmy. It’s where I want to be. No company behind it, milking the users.
Yep, I’m ready to read the news that this platform surpassed the user base of Lemmy on the first day and never looked back. And I am ready to not be bothered by it.
Good on them for any pain they inflict on reddit. And I do hope the fediverse takes over the global media landscape because that is better for humanity than corpo-governmental gatekeepers. But if Lemmy’s user base just hangs around in the tens of thousands rather than the tens of millions, I am content.
I disagree about being content with a small user base, I want more niche communities beyond News/Politics, Linux/FOSS, and memes.
I have mixed feelings.
On one hand, agreed @ wanting more variety in communities.
OTOH, Lemmy already has too much fucking politics. I don’t want whatever’s infecting reddit to become even MORE prevalent here. shudder
How much worse could it really become in terms of politics? It already feels like 60% of posts are politics, and jumps to 90% if you include the “Windows/Google/AI bad, use Linux/Librewolf/Selfhost” posts.
Well, I block posters and communities pretty quickly when I see politics. I already feel like I have to add to that list way too much. Worse would be “I can’t even click Next without needing to block another one”.
I hate the idea of “blocking” a user or community, to me I hear “block” and imagine a user who harasses me or posts actual spam, whereas someone who comments politics a lot might also comment non-political stuff I’d like to see, or if an event is big enough I could see cross posts in more niche communities. I wish there was a “show me less of this on the front page” option.
Yeah, I get that, like blocking should be an extreme step?
But for me it’s kind of a defensive measure. I feel political-flooded basically all the time online. There’s no respite, so I have to carve out what sanity I can.
Be the change you want to see in the world
Sorry for being off topic (from the article), but I have a little community of translators on lemmy.ca if you’re interested in niche communities.
What? Where? Nice!
Oh I want those things too. The current size of Lemmy is not my ideal. It’s just really really nice in its current form for me as a unique little nerdy place hidden in plain sight from what most of the internet has become.
It was more the juxtaposition of how the world needs all these open technologies that people band together to create for the good of all, buuuuut if nobody notices this particular one then that will serve my personal interests. And to be clear I’m not hoping for that or trying to hold it back. Just pointing it out. :)
Pre-digg immigration OG reddit user here. The enshittification of reddit started when digg users joined en masse and flooded the site with advice animal memes and f7u13 macros.
My timeline was
Fark>Slashdot>Digg>Reddit>Lemmy
I don’t allow loops.
Meh, it’s still corpo space.
They are going to use Ai to moderate, lol… That will be fun to watch.
They already do on Reddit…
I’m a little half and half on it. A lot of people like myself are fed up with the obsessive way AI is pushed into everything, but I can see it having uses.
For instance, sifting through 20,000 “This user didn’t accept my argument evidence” reports to find some that have merit; that can be worthwhile, even if all it does is alert a human to take a look and make a full judgment. Besides, the bar for quality moderators on sites like Reddit is low.
Let’s also remember that AI has many different meanings. It depends on what technology they’re using. AI is just literally a type of computer program that can be used for a variety of things.
How low are we talking?
I’m not really qualified to answer, we might need a deep-sublayer geologist.
i wonder if it could be tricked into banning wrong people
It won’t get a chance; I’m not making an account.
Not banning good people, banning wrong people.
Oh look, another centralized social media site owned by tech bros!
But currently its quite cool!!1!
I will never return to walled garden internet. You burned all your good will by being greedy and horrible.
Walled gardens go against the spirit of the Internet, anyway.
You mean the digg everyone ditched for reddit when they went insane? That digg?
I think some people don’t even realize that digg used to be way more popular than that very basic reddit thingy nobody used.Digg was started before reddit and I think reddit took the upvote idea and went with it. When digg switch to the new layout and then to the news only crap everyone went to reddit like I hope everyone will to the fedeverse. I use to watch the Screensavers and was there when Kevin Rose came on.
I loved the Screensavers! Those were good times, Call for Help, the Screensavers, TechTV News. It was a very transitional time between Cable TV and the Internet becoming connected in everyones homes. Probably very influential on me career-wise and I’m glad to have experienced it.
IMO it’s inevitable now that they’ve made it harder for users to customize their experience (API debacle). The site will have to change over time, and it will gradually piss people off. Eventually old.reddit will no longer be worth the cost to maintain.
No, they built a completely new product.
still the same company though. why trust them not to fuck it up like they did before?
It’s also not the same company. More than a few years have passed, and even though Kevin Rose is involved, you can assume a few lessons were learned.
So in any case they’ll fuck it up in an entirely new way. Or, maybe, they won’t.
Kevin Rose also left Digg at some point, not sure how much of that demise is on him. He had to buy it back for this second run.
He left after the collapse. He was very involved in the redesign, I remember listening to him talking about it on the TWIT podcast.
This is like the 3rd time digg is trying to exist.
4th, really: Popular Digg, the version that drove people to Reddit (which they labeled as v4), whatever it languished as after that and before now where I think users could only comment, and the new site that just went live.
It already sucks, I did the beta and it started to suck then. Now I cannot login because their login method sucks. I am done. I am happy on Lemmy.
It started out enshittified, ai automod will take down your posts/comments for anything inappropriate like saying shit or fuck. No what the fucks on digg. They may have fixed it temporarily since ppl were complaining.
Idk, the moment they swapped the shovel and tombstone for basic triangle upvote/downvotes I knew it was going to be corporate slop for the general public.
It started enshittified
It’s a venture capital company, what else could you expect
Isn’t one of the guys behind reddit also behind bringing this back? It seems like another way to corner the market. I’d still join for a week to see if it could be my thing, though
Sooo, Digg started to monetize, Manipulate the feeds for money, allowing Reddit to swoop in and steal their lunch. Doubled down as the platform emptied, now 15 years later, they say Trust me, Bro?
Wow, I can’t wait to never use that and forget all about it.
Sounds like an unholy wedding of AI and privacy nightmare to me.
