The consequences for violation are on a hilariously different scale. Here you might get a deleted by mod where if the government’s mods say you can’t it’s actually illegal, so there’s a big difference there. You can also reach the same policy for different reasons, im kinda ambivalent on the hexbear policy and with a flag like that no matter what move you make here plays into Israel’s hand, that’s why they made the flag be that way. I also dont think it’s all thst detrimental towards our support Ansrallah or Hezbollah in their current struggle cause they aren’t reading any of this and if they did they probably wouldnt like us, they arent leftist groups, they have our support cause they’re trying to stop a genocide. Its not like we see eye to eye with these guys in pretty much any other regard, they’re just what we have rn. Its pragmatic support. Which means you dont need to go full in. I would hope those not from the burgerreich would get this cause neither of those groups represent them and therefore we dont need to mirror their behavior. Im mostly against it cause it’ll just invite really annoying federated reply guys every time it’s used
That simply isn’t true. Just because they oppose Israel and do things about it doesnt make them leftist by any measure. You are being absolutely absurd here.
I do notice it always seems to be the most contrarian and “fuck you, I do what I want” sort of posters here who loudly demand a burning Israel flag the most. Like, it isn’t hard to express hate for Israel here, so I don’t know why they act like this is some big “censorship” thing or whatever, they accuse people of behaving like liberals, while behaving like liberals themselves, acting like the meaning of words isn’t important, just empty symbols and shibboleths.
Looking at the comments and upvotes on this post makes it pretty clear that more people are aligned with Z’s position than not, even if you discount the users who are allegedly their alts.
I don’t think I’ve interacted with him before this but I do think it’s disingenuous to say he isn’t a representative of what most arabs on this site think.
“israel” has been bombing the entire region for almost a century at this point, all while waving that flag.
Maybe it doesn’t make sense to a westerner, but yes that flag is literally the same as the nazi flag in west asia.
That’s so incredibly pathetic. They’re wasting all this time and energy on trying to get a niche shitposting site to have an emoji they really want instead of just verbalising how they feel about Israel, there’s no one stopping them. I feel bad now, imagine all the effort they’ve spent trying to push hexbear into get this emoji, instead of doing literally anything more productive with their time, they could’ve gone out and actually pushed for actual Palestinian causes, actually helped their community, even just tried to educate people on Israel and their crimes, instead they choose to accuse probably the most anti-Israel place on the internet of being pro-Israel because of a fucking emoji. Goddamn. I want them to touch grass so bad I’m going to go and touch grass the rest of the day.
Also, was that nazi account that showed up a little while back that demanded the same emoji also one of their alts? They’ve made a few similar arguments here. Because if so I think that alone is grounds for banning all their accounts, “cosplaying” as a nazi to “own the Israelis” is just disgusting, and I think would show their true intentions behind why they want this particular emoji so bad. I really hope that wasn’t them, I wouldn’t think they are that bad.
As long as you keep banning me for nonsense I’ll keep making new accounts. Admins and mods themselves have stated that since they removed the userunion, feedback and appeals comms and avenues the correct way to address any grievance with mod abuse is make a new alt. We are explicitly actively encouraged to keep creating new alts by the mod team so they never have to deal with feedback or appeals.
But if we do what you explicitly told us is our only recourse, that’s also ban worthy btw.
Your whole shit is a giant bag of contradictions. Your mods make death threats and when it’s brought up, admins look the other way. There’s a chilling effect, users notice you doing this. It doesn’t go away like you think, it festers and you lose users and nobody values your judgments.
Im sure it’s hard to remember but was that claim substantiated at all? Im doubting it and it would be hard to recall, but if so I’d like to hear what that argument would be.
idk someone else reminded me of it but I think it was something to do with China doing business with the US and Israel or something to that effect. It was nonsense.
the user was banned for their argument, so the consequences are worse than you stated. You are harassed, given death threats, lied about, smeared and banned.
The consequences for violation are on a hilariously different scale. Here you might get a deleted by mod where if the government’s mods say you can’t it’s actually illegal, so there’s a big difference there. You can also reach the same policy for different reasons, im kinda ambivalent on the hexbear policy and with a flag like that no matter what move you make here plays into Israel’s hand, that’s why they made the flag be that way. I also dont think it’s all thst detrimental towards our support Ansrallah or Hezbollah in their current struggle cause they aren’t reading any of this and if they did they probably wouldnt like us, they arent leftist groups, they have our support cause they’re trying to stop a genocide. Its not like we see eye to eye with these guys in pretty much any other regard, they’re just what we have rn. Its pragmatic support. Which means you dont need to go full in. I would hope those not from the burgerreich would get this cause neither of those groups represent them and therefore we dont need to mirror their behavior. Im mostly against it cause it’ll just invite really annoying federated reply guys every time it’s used
they both are further left than you are
That simply isn’t true. Just because they oppose Israel and do things about it doesnt make them leftist by any measure. You are being absolutely absurd here.
They are banned now but this is the same user that once claimed that Russia is (not was but is) more socialist than China.
I do notice it always seems to be the most contrarian and “fuck you, I do what I want” sort of posters here who loudly demand a burning Israel flag the most. Like, it isn’t hard to express hate for Israel here, so I don’t know why they act like this is some big “censorship” thing or whatever, they accuse people of behaving like liberals, while behaving like liberals themselves, acting like the meaning of words isn’t important, just empty symbols and shibboleths.
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Looking at the comments and upvotes on this post makes it pretty clear that more people are aligned with Z’s position than not, even if you discount the users who are allegedly their alts.
Or maybe we’re all their alts now idk
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“From the River to the Sea” is a Holocaust chant. Watermelon is a Holocaust Fruit. Palestine Flag is a Holocaust Flag. Hamas are doing the Holocaust.
Do you even listen to yourself?
Please read my comment above
I don’t think I’ve interacted with him before this but I do think it’s disingenuous to say he isn’t a representative of what most arabs on this site think.
“israel” has been bombing the entire region for almost a century at this point, all while waving that flag.
Maybe it doesn’t make sense to a westerner, but yes that flag is literally the same as the nazi flag in west asia.
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That’s so incredibly pathetic. They’re wasting all this time and energy on trying to get a niche shitposting site to have an emoji they really want instead of just verbalising how they feel about Israel, there’s no one stopping them. I feel bad now, imagine all the effort they’ve spent trying to push hexbear into get this emoji, instead of doing literally anything more productive with their time, they could’ve gone out and actually pushed for actual Palestinian causes, actually helped their community, even just tried to educate people on Israel and their crimes, instead they choose to accuse probably the most anti-Israel place on the internet of being pro-Israel because of a fucking emoji. Goddamn. I want them to touch grass so bad I’m going to go and touch grass the rest of the day.
Also, was that nazi account that showed up a little while back that demanded the same emoji also one of their alts? They’ve made a few similar arguments here. Because if so I think that alone is grounds for banning all their accounts, “cosplaying” as a nazi to “own the Israelis” is just disgusting, and I think would show their true intentions behind why they want this particular emoji so bad. I really hope that wasn’t them, I wouldn’t think they are that bad.
(Thread here, so you know what I’m talking about): https://hexbear.net/post/5761214
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As long as you keep banning me for nonsense I’ll keep making new accounts. Admins and mods themselves have stated that since they removed the userunion, feedback and appeals comms and avenues the correct way to address any grievance with mod abuse is make a new alt. We are explicitly actively encouraged to keep creating new alts by the mod team so they never have to deal with feedback or appeals.
But if we do what you explicitly told us is our only recourse, that’s also ban worthy btw.
Your whole shit is a giant bag of contradictions. Your mods make death threats and when it’s brought up, admins look the other way. There’s a chilling effect, users notice you doing this. It doesn’t go away like you think, it festers and you lose users and nobody values your judgments.
literally just lying and making shit up. Just like when you lied about the death threats you made
Im sure it’s hard to remember but was that claim substantiated at all? Im doubting it and it would be hard to recall, but if so I’d like to hear what that argument would be.
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Darn. That isn’t even fun. BTW didn’t know how bans affected posting so sorry for saying you weren’t doing your job
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There is in newer versions of lemmy-ui, Lemmy.ml has it.
I remember old BBS forums having a Lil hammer image over the avatar indicating a bonk. They’ve taken so much from us
idk someone else reminded me of it but I think it was something to do with China doing business with the US and Israel or something to that effect. It was nonsense.
I figured I was looking for something that wasn’t there but figured if there was anything it’d be funny
the user was banned for their argument, so the consequences are worse than you stated. You are harassed, given death threats, lied about, smeared and banned.