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There Are Seven Fundamental Tenets:

I - One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.

II - The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.

III - One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.

IV - The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one’s own.

V - Beliefs should conform to one’s best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one’s beliefs.

VI - People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one’s best to rectify it and resolve any

harm that might have been caused.

VII - Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.

Since in the modern age we can obtain all of the nutrition we need from a well-planned plant-based diet, by buying & consuming animal products, we participate in unnecessary cruelty to sentient beings

I can make an argument that being non-vegan in the modern age is violating all seven of these tenets

Tenet I : It’s neither reasonable, nor compassionate or empathetic, to needlessly exploit & take the life of a creature when we have moral agency & alternatives, unlike other animals.

Tenet II : It’s true that it’s legal to exploit & unalive animals today, but it was also legal to own slaves in the past. Just because we’re legally allowed to do something doesn’t mean we should.

Tenet III : One’s body being inviolable and subject to their own will alone should extend to all sentient beings. If it doesn’t, Name The Trait in a way that doesn’t lead to contradiction or absurdity

That is - Name The Trait different between humans and other animals that makes it okay to do things to other animals that we wouldn’t be okay with being done to humans.

I.e. justify the speciesist discrimination and double standard and differential treatment.

Tenet IV : We should be free to tell people they’re hypocrites for loving dogs & eating cows, or even for participating in the exploitative pet industry instead of adopting/rescuing companion animals.

Even if this is offensive to people. It’s freedom of speech and necessary for the activism and the struggle for justice that should prevail above laws and institutions (Tenet II).

To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of other sentient beings, is to forgo your own right to be respected like you would be if you first gave respect to other individuals (animals).

Tenet V : Insisting we need to eat meat or animal products to be healthy despite that disagreeing with scientific consensus, is distorting scientific facts to fit your beliefs,

& not conforming beliefs to your best scientific understanding of the world.

It’s denying reality,

burying your head in the sand to avoid confronting the truth,

& living in ignorance & delusion & the willfull, unnecessary destruction & oppression of others, self, & planet.

Tenet VI : Assuming that we are already perfect & couldn’t possibly be doing anything wrong or unjust, despite every historical society participating in normalized injustice, is not recognizing humans

are fallible.

And, when confronted with your mistake, in the form of what your kind have raised you to traditionally participate in regarding unnecessary systemic exploitation & violence to sentient beings,

if your response is to deflect, close your ears, & refuse to take personal responsibility or change any behavior, is to not do one’s best to rectify it & resolve any harm that might have been caused.

then that is to not right the wrong and fundamentally unjust relationship between humans and other animals and resolve it into one of harmonious and respectful coexistence.

Rather than one of needless exploitation, domination, violence, cruelty, and oppression.

Finally, Tenet VII : To claim that because these tenets do not specifically mention an obligation to not exploit & harm non-human animals unnecessarily & to be vegan, that means it isn’t entailed by

the values underlying them, is to not let every tenet serve as guiding principles designed to inspire nobility in action & thought & not allow the spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice to prevail

over the written or spoken word.

  • supersalad@lemmy.worldOP
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    4 months ago

    It’s actually not an ad hominem, even if it seems insulting. I’m saying your argument is a coping mechanism typically deployed by humans trying to justify non-human animal exploitation. And I said it in connection with my argument critiquing what you said, so you’re taking it out of context.

      • supersalad@lemmy.worldOP
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        4 months ago

        Just because you feel insulted doesn’t make something ad hominem. Calling your argument a “cope”, or a deflective coping mechanism often used by carnists, might not mean much on its own, but combined with my other points and reasoning hopefully it’s clear why I made that assessment.

        • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          4 months ago

          this is what a cope looks like.

          you have no intellectual honesty at all and only a cursory familiarity with academic discussion. instead of accusing others of constantly engaging in fallacies, try actually engaging with what they’re claiming.

          fallacies truck us into believing something because they mimic good reasoning. sometimes, some claim or statement might use a phrase you’ve learned to associate with a fallacy, but which is actually using good reasoning.