• Striker@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    My stance is on this is simple. Why don’t people just move on when they see a pitbull instead of feeling the need to copy paste statistics about them.

    I doubt they would walk up to someone waking their pitbull and read out their copy pastas lol.

  • plaguesandbacon@lemmy.ca
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    2 years ago

    I’m a strong proponent that it’s the owner, not the dog that is ultimately the reason pitty’s get a bad rap. I’ve rarely come across a pit bull that isn’t a big lovable goofball that just wants belly rubs and to play tug. But the one’s that haven’t been seem to have irresponsible owners that either don’t know, or don’t care about how to properly train their dog.

    That said, it’s hard not to look at the data and agree that a breed ban would be best.

  • BigFig@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Those posts, holy fuck Fediverse, be better…

    Somehow you posting a picture of your dogs in a wholesome sub REQUIRES them to comment something shitty when they could, idk, mind their own fucking business?

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      It wasn’t a neutral post though was it? The title is “In retaliation to the Pit bull haters,”. That’s not a “wholesome” post to begin with, and if you call someone out, don’t be surprised when they answer back

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        2 years ago

        My point being that people were acting as if they were legally compelled to respond when they could have simply moved on and not gotten involved.

  • Cloudless ☼@lemmy.cafe
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    2 years ago

    In 2009, the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia released a five-year review of dog-bite injuries. The review states that 51 percent of attacks were made by pit bulls.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19644273/

    In 2009, another study was published by the American Journal of Forensic Medicine and Pathology. The study ran for 15 years and it has concluded that pit bulls, German Shepherds, and Rottweilers are among the most common breeds that cause fatal dog attacks in Kentucky State.

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19696575/

    In 2011, the Annals of Surgery published a study, which concluded that Pitbull attacks lead to more expensive hospital bills, higher risk of death, and higher morbidity rates compared to other breeds of dogs.

    https://journals.lww.com/annalsofsurgery/Abstract/2011/04000/Mortality,_Mauling,_and_Maiming_by_Vicious_Dogs.23.aspx

  • Skeezix@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    There’s two types of people: those who hate pitbulls, and those who’s pitbull hasn’t mauled someone yet.

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        2 years ago

        That’s the argument. On one side it’s “Here’s a heap of statistics, and testimonials from Vets about how this breed was bred for fighting and is extremely dangerous to humans” and on the other side:

        “Says the guy who probably tortures animals”.

        So, of course it’s nasty. People who have actually been attacked by pitbulls, mauled and disabled by them, are fighting fucking morons. Really, really stupid people that care more about dogs than humans.

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          2 years ago

          Let’s try arguing fair then. I’ll start with one fact. There is no such breed as a pit bull. Now you go 😉.

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            2 years ago

            Ok, then the pit bull type dogs should be banned since their attacks are more vicious than any other type of dog.

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              2 years ago

              Well ok lol. Then my argument is, I disagree with you, I don’t even know if you understand what a logical argument is.

  • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    Let me guess, pitbulls? Racists have been using them as a dogwhistle for awhile now.

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    I’d just like to see a sensible discussion that doesn’t involve the falsified statistics presented by the Dogsbite blog and its offshoots.

    The so-called academic behind their “statistics” was outed for multiple frauds, the blogs are all set up by shadowy anonymous individuals with opaque funding.

    It’s all just so janky, like there’s a big movement intent on muddying the water of actual useful conversation.

    Large terriers are undoubtedly a potential problem in the hands of inexperienced or irresponsible owners, but to over simplify the argument to “pitbull dogs bad” is irresponsible.

    Any dog over ~15kg can do great harm, and when you take into account the breed traits of terriers, it’s easy to understand the importance of proper debate.

    But the crusaders need to be ranked out in favour of proper discussion.