• SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Kind of looking like all signs are pointing to Trump being the american fascist with this. I know Norman Finkelstein disagrees because he claims there’s no left in the USA, and while I partially agree, like there’s no mass working class movement, I can’t see this as anything but a pre-emptive strike on any fomenting movements.

    • Leegh [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Finkelstein did not account for the fact that fascists always manufacture an opposition to justify itself regardless of whether there is an organized left domestically. Usually this means targeting a minority, or a perceived foreign threat.

      • purpleworm [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        I think Finkelstein’s thing isn’t that fascists need a real opposition to justify themselves, but that the militancy of fascism as a historical trend stems from defending capitalism from militant socialists/unionists/etc., and therefore is completely senseless for the ruling class to allow if it’s not actually fighting something. Obviously there are things like military dictatorships that have existed when the left was non-existent or just a bunch of libs.

        • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          It does not matter if there is an organized opposition. The only thing that matters is that Capitalism (in the case of the US, total world domination) is suffering set-backs. The cause of these set-backs does not matter. Even if they are completely self-inflicted, a price must be paid in blood.

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        History is already repeating, and organizing when fascism is already in control of all levers of power is kinda a bit too late. After all the millions of Rotfront fighters and KPD voters did not vanish when the nazis came into power and didnt overthrow the nazis, and the american left is a joke in comparison.

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      2 months ago

      I don’t think trump is gonna live long enough to really establish the burger reich. Although there’s plenty of ghouls happy to take his place.

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        I don’t think the issuing party’s vacation of office, in any form, vacates the directives?