• LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Yeah, the emperor is straight evil. You can convince him to be evil with a single dice roll, and if you don’t want to eat Orpheus’s brains, he also goes ape-shit and joins the other side. Lets not pretend he ever had a goal beyond self-preservation and power for the sake of it. FFS, the major themes of BG3 are entirely “power - but at what cost?” This dude will gain power through manipulation as long as he can and then destroy you and everything you worked for TOGETHER because you didn’t want to murder an innocent(?) gith prince

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      Anyone that makes some gith look reasonable is proper evil. How are litch queen worshippers not the baddies here i-cant The funny part is most people that free orpheus turn him into a mindflayer anyway which defeats the purpose of freeing him kinda i-cant

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          They may damn well be better. I don’t have a good feeling about orpheus. Something about him screams he will be another oppressive leader. Then again he is willing to sacrifice himself to beat netherbrain. Maybe I just like being evil and don’t like the gith

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      Right that emperor. I was thinking WH one and was trying to work out the tentacles worked out there.

      I need to do a new play through if/when get new pc setup. Still don’t know how people do evil runs though

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      A cooking scene would have been better. I’m a dark urge I demanded calamari and my disappointment was immeasurable vegeta-stare

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    Eh, his stated plans are irrelevant when compared with his actual deeds - I doubt Baldur’s Gate had that many “criminals” even assuming some kind of strict telepathic observation to “judge” targets. Illithid need to eat a sapient brain every week - hence their immense slaver empire - those tentacles secrete a flesh-and-bone melting enzyme that allows them to wrap around the brain of their victim and shlorp it out into their lamprey teeth. The pain makes them taste better!

    This is glossed over, because BG3 relied on constant mcguffins to keep up momentum and not stumble over its lack of interest in any particular element… though thinking about it, by my own logic, that’s a pretty crazy situation and just riding that wave of chaos with good intentions is probably the best anyone could do. Dude says he’s going to help? Believe him until you need to stab him in the face.

    Oddly, undead Illithid have an easier time avoiding mass murder and living peacefully with non-Illithid - theoretically.

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      Only to tech bros and reddit brains is this not evil. The zoidberg lookin mf deceives you from the very beginning. Omelum is the better example of a good mind flayer trying to curb those urges (even then I wouldn’t trust the mf at all) but emps? I make it a rule never to trust anyone called emperor and its served me well. Withers tells you straight up mindflayers have no souls (unless durge surprises him and keeps his). Thats a big red flag

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        The lack of souls thing is a new thing, and kinda weird since Illithid have deities (though I guess it accentuates their lovecraftian Far Realm-ness), but FR already has some horrible stuff going on with souls anyway - sure a soul might mean you go to your afterlife of choice, but you might also just be rendered down into soup to make an angel or demon. Non-theists or the disingenuously pious are turned into screaming bricks - someone like Ketheric is very likely to end up damned to the Wall of the Faithless once Myrkul’s flossed his teeth with him.

        Since Illithid can clearly do whatever they want and are all psychic badasses, and going to an afterlife in Faerun is a crapshoot, having a soul doesn’t seem to be particularly important… usually it would mean “you’re evil” or whatever, but “evil” souls already exist and get to go to evil heaven and have evil rewards (or just get turned into a maggot). It might mean psychological issues, sure, Illithid are brain-eating slavers… but the Drow are pretty much just as awful and they get to be rewarded with an eternity in the Demonweb Pits being eaten by spiders. Lucky.

  • Tommasi [she/her, pup/pup's]@hexbear.net
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    I kinda think it’s the opposite. Because he’s such a good liar he seems morally ambigious at first, but the more you learn about him, the clearer it becomes he’s just evil. If you’re close to him at the end of the game he’ll reveal that the reason he wants to destroy the netherbrain rather than take control of it is because he believes the latter is too dangerous, and you can convince him to change his mind. There’s definitely no altruistic ideas about ensuring everyone’s freedom there.

    However…

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      Mf led me into Ansur like that. If it wasn’t for me needing his help it would be on sight. Look how he joins the netherbrain if you don’t follow his every move like a muppet. I’m turning his ass into a mukhbang every time we meet, believe that. And I mean the alive octopus type dean-malice