I found Reddit about 6 years ago, took a little while to understand what it was about but when I finally got it, I felt like I had found the best place on the internet. Somewhere I could be my true self without being myself. Every time I logged in, I felt free. Like solo roaming the streets of a new city in a foreign country for the first time. Intellectual conversation, assistance on vague problems, sharing life experiences, advice, watching porn you didn’t know existed, and then slipping out the back door when you were done.

As many here already know, those days are gone. The freedom is gone, it feels like a communist regime and it seems that their success is their downfall. The entire personality of Reddit has changed and will never come back, it even shows in the users. The community is broken, unauthentic and the Truth has left the conversation. Freedom is dead over there. What a shame. It’s like my favorite bar burnt down.

But the thing that really gets me is that it didn’t just change, it became the exact opposite. It has become the exact reason why someone built it, in the first place.

I read that it’s attracting the most new users of all the social apps. Best performing app, which means the end is near. Soon it will just be a limb of the pretend society that we used to hide from behind the walls of Reddit. And for some reason, I just want to see it burn.

  • HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Reddit died when they killed 3rd party apps and removed mods who protested, but it has been on the decline for a long time since Spez decided that reddit has to be transformed into something that shits money for him

    Edit: Insert obligatory “Fuck Spez” here

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      It died before that. There was a time you would know breaking news hours before traditional media reported it. Then they changed the algorithm and the flow of info crawled to match the speed of advertising and people who want to control the capitol class narrative.

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        Yuuup. It started when they removed the ability to view downvotes and heavily inflated and skewed upvote counts. That’s when I stopped seeing breaking news at the top of /r/all. The it just got shittier from there. My final straw (as my join date shows) was killing Apollo.

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        Yeah, I heard that about the site and official app but having my 3rd party app Joey let me customize my feed and filter a lot of garbage out

        It was working great all the way up until they shut it down

        The site now is a joke, r/news and r/worldnews used to always be front and center on the frontpage. Now, it’s buried under a wall of noise

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        9 months ago

        Twitter turning to X had a similar result but it was already on its way there

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      It’s the mods that are killing it. Absolute 1 dimensional neckbeard thinking, and the bots. I mean who the fuck in their right mind volunteers to work for a multi billion dollar tech company, right? Absolute neck beard degenerates, that’s who.

      Modding probably sucks ass, don’t get me wrong, but expel your efforts on modding something like a Lemmy instance, where it’s for good and not just efforts that go to buying another yacht for some billionaire laughing all the way to the bank

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        A lot of those neckbeard mods had been there from the start and are responsible for building the Reddit community from the beginning

        It’s no longer a community, it’s just trash

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        9 months ago

        Reddit also power mods, and power hungry mods that love gatekeep. Remember the antiwork mod fiasco

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          That antiwork fiasco was a perfect example of a typical reddit mod. At least what my interpretation would be.

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            that was so embarassing, they even allowed her/him back on the sub as a mod.

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              Really? That sub went from being legit to being a global beacon for a failing platform in less than 30 seconds.

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                its just all whining , quitting because of such a small disagreement with your boss? its not that serious. that was like 50-70% of the posts there.

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        I think its naive to think they dont take money for shilling, they could just discuss it off platform, links in the sidebar, referrals everywhere, ppl shilling their companeis in every post but some ppl get banned for it some dont

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          I’m sure there’s the odd mod that gets paid or allowed to monetize, but the vast majority of them are unpaid.

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    9 months ago

    everything you said is correct, except replace communist regime with christofasism/capatilism. The rich are tired of the poors again.

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      Bot posts, upvotes, comments from 1d accounts quadruppled since I’m very sceptical about the projected stats. It’s like the first human users setup a social culture and as time progresses new users see the potentials and become the first “parasites” of a settled community. A bot army is just a tool.

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        It’s like the first human users setup a social culture and as time progresses new users see the potentials and become the first “parasites” of a settled community.

        We did.

        I was one of them.

        I had a reddit account before I had a facebook account, back when digg still actually existed, and reddit was basically just trying to be a better version of digg.

        It was good for a while, and now its run its course, corrupted by … so many different things, insane mods, insane political movements, and of course, money money money.

        The internet utopia dreamed of in the 90s has crashed and burned and warped into a dystopian panopticon of hate, misery, greed and lies that a younger and more optimistic me was convinced could only happen in cyberpunk fiction…

        ’ I had dreamed a dream, but now that dream is gone from me. ’

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          The dream lives on, here and not im the corpo torment nexus. I don’t really ever want to use something by a corporation ever again. It used to work out fine but now it doesn’t.

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    I know you didn’t likely put too much specifically pointed thought into your phrasing of ‘feels like a communist regime’, but please do realize you are describing a hypercapitalist, shareholder driven, investment seeking and profligate monetization enacting regime, governance structure, moderation style.

    Reddit is now the Pepsi Ad with cops and protesters getting their Pepsis and singing kumbaiyah… and then the after credits scene is the cops finish their Pepsis and beat everyone’s heads in.

    This is enshittification.

    This is the relentless and ultimately brutish and stupid drive to extract as much wealth as possible out of anything, in a way that actually destroys the thing, manifest in an online message board.

    Lure in the user base, lock down the market demographic, destroy competition as much as you can, and then squeeze every penny out of em when they have no alternatives.

    Fuck Spez, RIP Aaron.

    EDIT: Oh also, you are a lemm.ee user, your instance is shutting down at thr end of June, you may want to look at setting up another user account on another instance.

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      Phrasing like that reminds me of all the “this is the commu-social-marxism the libs want” and it’s just a picture of current capitalism.

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        I’m being nice because this person is a refugee, the fact that they are here, describing what they’ve experienced and witnessed, realizing that it is bad and another place could be better… it means they’ve got a good head on their shoulders trying to escape the hivemind.

        Please don’t lose them in the pattern buffer, O’Brien =P

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      to this i’d like to add that when i browse there sometimes i keep seeing people saying things like “this is reddit libs are everywhere” “this is reddit even slight conservatism will make people call for a death sentence” or “this is reddit you can’t say anything non-progressive” and those are getting many upvotes, whilst anything said that’d paint you as anywhere left of centre will get you downvoted.

      it seems like the conservatives have taken over and yet they still feel like they’re surrounded

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        sorry, when you say ‘when i browse there’… do you mean… .world? or reddit?

        Its 3am and I think my language parsing skills have given out, lol

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          oop sorry, seems like i’m from the opposite side of the world and my phrasing after waking up could also have used some work

          by “there” i meant reddit in that comment

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            Ah, all good, no problem!

            Given that clarification, yes, I completely agree.

            Conservatives tend to be the masters of projection, of seeing themselves as victims when they objectively are not…

            …well, small caveat to that, as lately in the US they’ve become victims of the party and policies they voted for, but claim they didn’t vote for, because they are too ignorant to understand how anything actually works, as well as too devoted to their orange cultic god to see any of his insane hypocrtitical nonsense as such.

            But anyway yeah back to reddit: yep, the platform has gone fully corporate, anyone aware of … what that means for a social media tech company bailed the hell out as soon as news of that broke, now the easily predictable enshittification has begun, and the less well informed but still generally capable of objectively assesing the world crowd is now also starting to stream out… and the people who are left are the asocial or antisocial conservative dullards who continue to gaslight themselves and refuse to acknowledge or understand what has happened…

            … because for an insecure conservative, admitting you were ever wrong or uninformed about something is seen as a damnable sign of weakness and personal failure… instead of the learning and growing opportunity it could be with just a bit of a mindset shift.

            I know this because I was raised that way, in that kind of a household, and was fortunately able to un-brainwash myself and realize that its ok to be wrong about things, to learn and grow.

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    The freedom is gone, it feels like a communist regime and it seems that their success is their downfall.

    Much like the current American hellscape, you’re thinking of fascism, not communism.

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    The freedom is gone, it feels like a communist regime and it seems that their success is their downfall.

    OP,. you’re not thinking of communism. You’re thinking of authoritarianism and hierarchy. This is what happens to all hierarchies. Go to almost any for-profit corporation, and the same stifling of freedom will be on display. Marxist-Leninist regimes are hierarchical and authoritarian, which is why they act the same as any corpo, but that’s not due to “communism”

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    9 months ago

    Ive been around long enough to know its an inevitable cycle, hopefully federation saves lemmy from the same fate.

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    I just got a three day account ban, for threatening violence, by commenting that I hope someone got charged for running a red light. This is the second time this has happened in two months, all thanks to maniacs on our community subs.

    It took me awhile to go back to that shit hole, and I’m getting a good reminder why. I just wish Lemmy would get a bit more active, and I can finally put Reddit to bed.

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      Mainstream social media is ridiculously censored now. I called a bunch of racists a single word: “gross”.

      My comment was removed while the overt racism stayed up. the digital world ain’t it.

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        It is. It’s also melted all our brains though, like some people need to be parented, but I mean the absolute garbage shit. That’s morphed from people cleaning that up and the spam, to mods trying to enforce a whole bunch of unwritten rules and arbitrarily deciding what people can post or comment based on their own opinions. Those people are mostly neckbeards too, so that don’t help.

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      A handful of lemmy mods are now just as bad as reddit mods. It didnt used to be that way.

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        The great thing with Lemmy though, is you can leave instances. I could get banned into the 6th dimension and I just have to start a different account on a different instance. Often can find whatever kind of sub I’m looking for on different instances too.

        The cost of this will be less users but I mean if you can get a couple hundred, that largely eliminates that issue. Lemmy will keep getting bigger, we’ll have to deal with the nutsack mods at some point, but there’s no big daddy reddit for them to hide behind here. They are on their own.

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    I remember when I first used Reddit feeling much the same way. However there has always been boatloads of toxic users and posts there. The only redeeming communities had dedicated volunteer admins because general content moderation was awful.

    However once they pushed the toxic coontent to the forefront and made the site much more walled off, a lot of those admins left. The result is the site as it is today.

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    By now, predicting the end of reddit is akin to putting a date to the end of the world.

    And who cares? This is not a competition, these are not teams, and there’s more internet than some famous url.

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    So where is everyone going because it’s not Lemmy. And Reddit still is huge. I don’t understand the “it’s so bad, everyone is getting banned” but also the site keeps growing.

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      Twitter had a suspiciously convenient massive uptick in bots that conveniently hid the shrinking user base from investors. I expect Reddit to conveniently have the same “problem”.

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      Bots. I swear its all bots reposting content from 10 years ago that people might not have seen yet or rewording old posts/comments. Check the account history and posts if something seems suspicious. Usually those people have lived all over the place, are different genders and have lives different time lines… Unless reddit is now all whovians… im calling bots

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      I have been off reddit since the api thing so I’m way out of touch with the current content and status.

      It just seems odd all these posts about Reddit dying and it makes me think of the people that loved reddit aren’t all here on Lemmy, so did they quit all of it or went somewhere else?

      No one I know in person switched away, technical or not, they still use reddit. The whole situation is just not adding up.

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        Reddit trained us not to post/comment as much with the frequent deletions, especially post, always get removed for no reason so I get anxiety when posting

        Rejection sensitive disphoria, however its spelled

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          Reddit and Stack Overflow both drilled this into me and I’ve been off those sites for a while and now they are dying, I couldn’t be happier

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      prob digg, need paid moderation and more ppl, it looks like a decent reddit clone, will prob have a higher population than lemmy just going off early adopters, reddit just needs competition, once ppl try one alternative theyll be open to trying more like lemmy

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          android and ios alpha for groundbreakers (ppl that paid 5% to reserve a name, it got donated to a foundation picked by voting), its not bad, getting updated fairly fast, has the former apollo reddit app dev

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              no, they paid to slowly filter ppl in and avoid spam none of the money went to them it was a donation that was voted on by the donators, its literally 5$ Once it’s out of alpha and the website and apps are ready it’ll be open to all. They’ve only let in whoever asked for it out of the donators also so it’s a small percentage of the donators using the platform right now, most did it to reserve a short username early im assuming