• Bouzou@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Since when can an executive order nullify a Constitutional Amendment??

    Seem like a pretty open shut case to me…

  • thesmokingman@programming.dev
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    8 months ago

    I think everyone focused on birth tourism is missing the fucking point. If being born in the US is no longer a necessary and sufficient qualification for citizenship, how does the child of two lawful citizens born on US soil become a citizen? Before you come at me with “it’s obvious” ask yourself which children the Trump admin or future GOP leaders would come after next and ask yourself, really fucking ask yourself, if it’s still obvious.

  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
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    8 months ago

    As a non-American I can’t believe that my wife and I could fly to the USA when she’s 8 months pregnant, give birth while there, and our kid would then be a US citizen, and as such we could probably then just choose to stay in the USA indefinitely. It makes no sense.

    The fact that this has been possible all this time is baffling. Passport tourism is not something that should ever have been allowed, especially when it is mostly used by illegal immigrants in order to gain protection from being deported.

    This shouldn’t even be a “left vs right” or “progressive vs conservative” thing. It’s just a bad thing that has no reason to exist.

    • Triteer@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Maybe you should take the time to understand American history and culture before forming opinions on those topics. Just because you don’t understand the reason it exists doesn’t mean there’s no reason.

      As an American, I love that people who love this country so much they’re willing to move their family halfway around the globe to live here have the ability to do this. Absolutely I want these people to be citizens. This country was literally founded by people doing exactly this.

      This ability wasn’t an accident. It’s not a mistake that this is possible, it’s deliberately written into our constitution.

      • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au
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        8 months ago

        I understand American history, which is why I understand that it hasn’t been necessary for decades by this point.

        You’re confusing immigration with exploiting a loophole in order to stay in the country illegally.

    • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      And that’s why you’re not an American. We love this shit. We don’t have hundreds of years of history and culture. Our history and culture is of people coming here to find a better life.

      And this administration is trying to take that away from us.

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      8 months ago

      Why do you care about illegal immigrants? My nation had a higher influx of refugees and their ratio to local citizens was also higher than USA, so, why do you care about illegal immigrants?

      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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        8 months ago

        It’s mostly racism in the case of the US.

        The US wants to preserve its exceptionalism, and thus doesn’t want to get “flooded with a wave of normal people from other countries”.

        They worry it would dilute their exceptionalism.


        Apart from that, other countries can have other reasons to be against immigration. I live in Europe, and for me it’s mostly economic concerns: I’m thinking that immigrants make the economic situation of the people living in this country worse, because they take jobs and occupy resources such as housing. It’s not racism, just economic concern.

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          8 months ago

          It’s so funny that Mr. “Enlightened” European’s take on immigration being bad is verbatim right-wing American politician talking points. You’re so much better than those racist Americans because you definitely only don’t want brown people because of FACTS and LOGIC.

    • supernight52@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      as a non-american

      Then shut the fuck up. It doesn’t affect you, nor does it concern you. Our citizenship policies are not your concern.