• Psythik@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    TBF, Android and iOS do not make it clear where files are going when you save them like desktop OSes do. It’s almost as if they are intentionally trying to hide their file structure, especially Apple, which is beyond frustrating.

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      7 days ago

      They are intentionally trying to hide it.

      The default file browsers don’t access the entire file structure, what exists and what you can see and edit, without root.

      You can, or at least could, sideload a FOSS filebrowser, much more straightforward UI, doesnt shit itself if you arent logged into it.

      What they instead do is make it really, really easy to upload all your personal files to their cloud, which is either going to cost you time, money, or your privacy.

      Its why Microsoft genuinely doesnt understand why everyone hates OneDrive, why they genuinely don’t see a problem with Windows becoming an AI prompt/API with ads.

      Because its basically the same as the mobile UI paradigm.

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          6 days ago

          I mean, I feel you, but I also used to work for Microsoft.

          Their management is largely literally delusional.

          The groupthink / corpo culture is so strong that its basically like talking to an ET alien, on many topics.

          So yes, clearly they do not care, but also, they’re very much deluded into thinking that everything they do is just obviously the way you would do something.

          Its very culty, to be frank, its one part of why I don’t work there any more, the other main one being their blatent reproduction of India’s caste system within MSFT itself.

          Multiple times I saw H1B visa junior employees getting viciously verbally absued by more senior employees from India, from a higher caste or social status, shit that I would have gotten instantly fired if I did.

          I went to HR and they told me that actually I was being culturally insensitive because that’s just normal in their culture.

          Absolute fucking horseshit.

          And this was all a decade-ish ago. I am certain it is much worse now, just look at everyone who got fired for objecting to Microsoft aiding and abetting and facilitating Israel’s genocide.

          … I’m gonna need a fucking cigarette, god damnit.

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      7 days ago

      I know where mine usually go, but sometimes they go somewhere else. Why did it do that? Where did it go? Sometimes I run a search and still can’t find it. Wtf? So, I have re-downloaded when I was in a pinch.

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      It’s been known since probably the seventies that normies have trouble with hierarchical file systems. UI researchers kept testing the assumptions about file systems, and the results in the majority of populace have always been abysmal. Which is why people have the desktop piled with every file they ever created or downloaded, and why UI designers are trying to move away from shoving file systems into users’ faces.

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        We all started as “normies”.

        This is solved through education and tutorials, not by making everything unusable by reducing it to the lowest common denominator.

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          No we didn’t, Mr. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Neurodivergence is something you’re born with. One can learn to act like a normie, but that’s not the same as being born as a normie.

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            13 hours ago

            This is a conversation about computer interfaces, not about whatever unrelated issue you’re attempting to shove in.

            It’s been known since probably the seventies that normies have trouble with hyerarchical file systems.

            I was evidently using the term (in quotes, if that wasn’t clear enough) the comment I was replying to used for… frankly, I don’t know what; people who aren’t born knowing about hierarchical file systems, I suppose? (in any case, if you have issues with that term it’s not me you should be preaching to), and pointing out that we all start not knowing about them, and that they’re not that esoteric or arcane a thing to learn through usage, or education.

            Because here’s the thing: much like you seem unwilling to read or incapable of reading the thread you’re replying to before replying to it with a non sequitur, 99% of the supposed “trouble” people have with computer interfaces and concepts stems from their irrational refusal to read the fucking screen, think for a second about what it’s saying, and fucking learn what it’s telling them.

            That’s the only issue with what the comment I was replying to referred as “normies” and as I said it’s easily fixable through education, and removing the information from the screen so that not even the people willing to read it can evidently won’t solve anything and will only make the problem worse.

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              Computer interfaces and neurodivergence go hand-in-hand, you know.

              *doesn’t read the rest of your comment*