Most of those redditor skeptic people became these same christofascists. It wasn’t really a true opposition to religion, but the desire to exterminate Muslims
that’s a you problem then because the redditors were, by comparison, only annoying, while the christians are annoying and have amassed political power to the detriment of humanity.
Yeah I can’t take seriously statements like that. Tell me you were never hurt by these assholes and are privileged and the whole thing is academic without telling me that.
If you put reddit cringe atheists and annoying youtube manosphere sexist “skeptics” on the same tier as Evangelicals you’re just wildly uninformed and offensively ignorant. One of these is just a bunch of annoying internet nerds circle jerking, another has immense political power, a broad base of support, incredible amounts of cash, fanatical devotion, infiltration of all levels of government, literally murders people and gets away with it, literally has a thing for covering up CSA and other abuse against children and adults at industrial scale. Lives in a totally deranged false reality, substitutes wild fantasy of 4000 years old earths and rejection of pretty much all of modern science and violent anti-intellectualism and a slavish devotion to the Protestant work ethic. And has succeed in the past and present in making women second class by denying them bodily autonomy, by inculcating from birth patriarchy and misogyny propaganda, and by driving thousands of LGBTQ to despair and suicide through their social control of whole towns and communities. We could reliably peel away at least a third the disaffected young men drawn into problematic movement atheism by influencers under the right conditions while I am convinced no conditions will peel away any statistically significant amount of Evangelicals to our cause because ours is antithetical to theirs.
It’s a little more complicated than that when you remember that there’s actually a world outside the US. A lot of the reactionary elements here in Europe for instance aren’t really explicitly christian beyond a sort of vague “cultural christianity” that can mean a million different things depending on who you ask (and it’s usually just something like baptizing your kids or getting married in a church because it’s family tradition). The worst islamophobes, racists, misogynists, anti-lgbtq fucks, zionists, and just general bigots I’ve interacted with IRL or in predominantly European language internet spaces have pretty much all been atheists, and none of those people support the right wing politicians/parties they do for any religious reasons.
The sort of evangelical freaks you have to deal with over there just aren’t much of a factor over here.
Now, you could of course make the argument that some of this shit is inspired by (or even directly “imported” from) the US and has its roots in US evangelicalism, and I’d agree with that to some degree, but the point is that religion isn’t a prerequisite for these things to take hold.
when talking about reddit atheists we’re mostly talking about movement atheists, not simple nonbelievers. there’s little reason to form communities around nonbelief when religious doctrine isn’t dominating society and eroding civil rights.
Now, you could of course make the argument that some of this shit is inspired by (or even directly “imported” from) the US and has its roots in US evangelicalism, and I’d agree with that to some degree, but the point is that religion isn’t a prerequisite for these things to take hold.
it’s not, but to the extent that reddit atheists reproduced the racism, misogyny, and white supremacy of their originating cultures they were simply failing to be better than the christofascists, and in the context of a major ameircan website should have been preferable to the god botherers.
We can do the skeptic and reddit atheist movement again, right? Just make it clear islamophobes can fuck right off, right?
Focus 100% on the KKKri$$tians
Can we do it without the reddit/skeptic community this time?
Stg those people made me cringe more than the Christians demanding I go to church
Most of those redditor skeptic people became these same christofascists. It wasn’t really a true opposition to religion, but the desire to exterminate Muslims
that’s a you problem then because the redditors were, by comparison, only annoying, while the christians are annoying and have amassed political power to the detriment of humanity.
Yeah I can’t take seriously statements like that. Tell me you were never hurt by these assholes and are privileged and the whole thing is academic without telling me that.
If you put reddit cringe atheists and annoying youtube manosphere sexist “skeptics” on the same tier as Evangelicals you’re just wildly uninformed and offensively ignorant. One of these is just a bunch of annoying internet nerds circle jerking, another has immense political power, a broad base of support, incredible amounts of cash, fanatical devotion, infiltration of all levels of government, literally murders people and gets away with it, literally has a thing for covering up CSA and other abuse against children and adults at industrial scale. Lives in a totally deranged false reality, substitutes wild fantasy of 4000 years old earths and rejection of pretty much all of modern science and violent anti-intellectualism and a slavish devotion to the Protestant work ethic. And has succeed in the past and present in making women second class by denying them bodily autonomy, by inculcating from birth patriarchy and misogyny propaganda, and by driving thousands of LGBTQ to despair and suicide through their social control of whole towns and communities. We could reliably peel away at least a third the disaffected young men drawn into problematic movement atheism by influencers under the right conditions while I am convinced no conditions will peel away any statistically significant amount of Evangelicals to our cause because ours is antithetical to theirs.
It’s a little more complicated than that when you remember that there’s actually a world outside the US. A lot of the reactionary elements here in Europe for instance aren’t really explicitly christian beyond a sort of vague “cultural christianity” that can mean a million different things depending on who you ask (and it’s usually just something like baptizing your kids or getting married in a church because it’s family tradition). The worst islamophobes, racists, misogynists, anti-lgbtq fucks, zionists, and just general bigots I’ve interacted with IRL or in predominantly European language internet spaces have pretty much all been atheists, and none of those people support the right wing politicians/parties they do for any religious reasons.
The sort of evangelical freaks you have to deal with over there just aren’t much of a factor over here.
Now, you could of course make the argument that some of this shit is inspired by (or even directly “imported” from) the US and has its roots in US evangelicalism, and I’d agree with that to some degree, but the point is that religion isn’t a prerequisite for these things to take hold.
when talking about reddit atheists we’re mostly talking about movement atheists, not simple nonbelievers. there’s little reason to form communities around nonbelief when religious doctrine isn’t dominating society and eroding civil rights.
it’s not, but to the extent that reddit atheists reproduced the racism, misogyny, and white supremacy of their originating cultures they were simply failing to be better than the christofascists, and in the context of a major ameircan website should have been preferable to the god botherers.