Stellantis said it will bring an all-electric small “car” called the Fiat Topolino to the U.S.

The Topolino is actually categorized as “an all-electric quadricycle” rather than a car, according to Stellantis and has a top speed of roughly 28 miles per hour.

Fiat’s announcement comes less than a week after President Donald Trump praised small “Kei” cars from Japan and expressed interest in bringing tiny cars to the U.S.

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        Ive driven in over half of the states in all manner of areas both urban and rural, and I genuinely dont see these kind of vehicles as feasible for the vast majority of American drivers.

        Theyre great for specific use cases within very narrow ranges as work vehicles. But as a commuter vehicle? No way it will work.

        I live in a rural town now, and it would be great for driving around the whole 5x10 block area of the city. It isnt making it out of town on a 55+mph highway, which is the only option to get to where most people live.

        In any major urban area that doesnt have constant gridlock like LA, NYC, etc. It is limited to being stuck within major roads that also outclass it in speed limits. Albeit slower ones that would more accommodate an even slower vehicle more than a highway. Even still, if this thing cant even go 30, and people consistently go 40 in the 30, then you dont want to be in this thing going under 30 and get rear ended to death by some 6k pound suv.

        Even if that never happened, you would spend a lot of time running the engine at its top speed which cant be great for longevity.

        They should totally be legal for local low speed road use, but they would be mostly useless and/or a death trap as a commuter vehicle for the vast majority of people

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    I wonder what that classification means for licensing/insurance/registration. At $9k~, it’s competing with top tier ebikes that have a lot of benefits over a pseudo-car. I can use bike infrastructure, don’t need a garage or parking space, there’s no license/registration/insurance, and I can easily repair most things on it myself. My ebike cost less than $2k and can do everything this can from the safety of a bike lane/trail, while all of the non-residential urban roads around here are rated 25mph-45mph. I couldn’t safely get groceries in this.

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        I’m the exact target market down to owning a car that’s the 2010s version of this for the same reasons they’re importing it. I’m selling that car for an alternative and this speed is what I think all cities should max out at. I like goofy Italian shit and can’t afford an actual electric car. For someone in my consumer position, this would have been an ideal car in 2015 and I’d have bought it in a heartbeat.

        In 2025 that isn’t the case. If this is competing with cars it can’t do so at a legal speed which is why I don’t ride my ebike on roads. If it’s competing with bikes, it can’t do so on the infrastructure that lets bikes survive the vastly heavier cars. It’s offering the same range and speed as an ebike at 2x the cost of a high-end Tern cargobike that fits more passengers in safer conditions. An electric kei truck would offer utility that I don’t currently get from the much cheaper option, but this would be much more impractical to own and use in a city.

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      Reminiscing about the halcyon days of Daimler-Chrysler, which ended with their QA getting better when they split from Daimler Benz and merged with fucking Fiat

      …I had a 2005 model 300C AWD at one point. Apparently they’re not that bad if you keep up on oil changes (and fix all of the inevitable suspension bushing rot and broken steering components and cheaply made CV axles). The previous owner did not keep up on oil changes, so in spite of my best efforts, that 4ish-year ordeal ended with me narrowly missing a visit from ol’ Uncle Rodney on account of some oil sludge dislodging and clogging all the things. At least it was fun in the snow. And I don’t mean that sarcastically – it did great as long as I didn’t plow into too deep of a snowbank. RIP, gas-guzzling dadmobile. You got me from point A to point B, and got out of your own way in a big damn hurry every time.

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    As long as they market it right, it’ll have no problem.

    Option 1: Market it as a golf cart, but for the streets.

    Option 2: Market it as the car you drive to your actual car to cut down on needing to walk from your front door to your car in the garage.

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      I’d be amazed if I saw anyone going less than 35 in a 25 in my area.

      And then you get on the 60mph road and some motherfucker is sitting in the left lane at 30 agony-shivering