• Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    It is a matter of time before this results in kinetic blowback on US soil.

    It is not very hard to get from latam to the US. If the IRA could do it to Britain, blowback is coming if this keeps happening.

    US policy in latam is now open and bare colonialism, much like Britain’s policy in Ireland was. It would not surprise me to see it escalate into something similar.

    If Trump openly states intent to kill world leaders then any would-be world leaders being targeted would be completely within my expectations if they sent attempts to kill Trump.

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      CIA would love nothing more than a massive “terrorist attack” on US soil, doubly so if they don’t have to do the planning. They’ve been pining for the golden years of 9/11 bloodthirst.

      As for Trump, well I can’t fedpost, but I can say that we wouldn’t have him hiding behind bulletproof glass if it weren’t for that fuckin’ Thomas kid

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          Looks at meme: DPRK genius for having nukes

          Empire will surely crumble if Venezuela and Colombia forces reach US soil, and large portions of US public won’t be volunteering and calling to turn South America to glass… surely. Millions in South America won’t die from civil war from propped up US aligned and US funded local forces, and US sanctioning and bombing them to the stone age while all that comes out of the international community is some strongly worded letters and pathetic protests or even support for taking down all these evil brown dictators and cartels who would dare attack the bastion of freedom and democracy.

    • Idk about other countries, but Colombians are so beaten down by 70+ years of armed conflict that most of them would go yea and keep trying to survive in the rubble. Having violence be the backdrop to our lives both desensitized us to it, and made us think it’s always pointless, despite the reasons. When violence is a constant in your life, you just accept it, turn your back to it, and keep doin what you’re doing. Look anywhere else for any kind of blowback or armed resistance.

      • sponsoring political violence through training and material support is what invites the blowback. plan columbia has been running for 80 years and has created generations of monsters.

        it wasn’t the beaten down and terrorized educators, trade unionists and communists that metastasized in Afghanistan and took out the WTC in lower manhattan. it was their enemies, the religious extremist reactionaries that were sponsored by the CIA to do dirty work who turned right around and went after their former masters.

        it won’t be regular Columbian people that would lash out against the US in blowback, it will be the tightly wound and rabid dogs that turn on their former masters over some betrayal or lack of support from their former allies at some critical inflection point.

        • Most of these guys are retired military from the times when the US made sure the Colombian army was the most deadly force in the planet and could get away with almost anything, then they retired and their pensions didn’t maintain the lifestyle they thought they deserved, so they do mercenary work for a few months and return home. The new guard in the Colombian army is kind of lukewarm on Petro, but they’ve been so thoroughly institution-pilled that idk if they have it in them to stage a coup. More likely they’ll just be bought off and let things happen, rather than actively try to oust Petro.

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        The Colombian Army is one of the most reactionary groups of people i’ve ever seen, but I don’t know if they have it in them to allow themselves to be humiliated by doing nothing. The Colombian Army has also been set up in such a way that only the most boring, white-bread-ass, insanely patriotic and institution-loving generals are ever put in command, because the executive has always been terrified of the army having any political power. They would grumble while defending the presidential palace, but I don’t think they’d let it happen either.

        The only question is, is the Colombian army trained and equipped to deal with an enemy like the US. Most of their experience is in counterinsurgency against low-tech enemies, so idk if they could stand up to enemies who have the capabilities of the US.

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    Don’t worry I’m sure there are pics of Columbians celebrating their sovereignty being violated that will be used to convince you this isn’t a clusterfuck

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          The colombian rightwingers are also USA-bastion-of-the-free-market-and-best-country-on-earth bootlickers. The would not mind getting Petro removed by force and getting a USA puppet, actually, they’d love it.

          And it is not a small amount of people.

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            So many otherwise chill or politically checked out Colombians turn into i-am-adolf-hitler the moment you bring up Venezuela or Venezuelans, especially since the migration crisis worsened in the past decade. It doesn’t help that during the Uribe years, Colombian media essentially painted Venezuela as Nazi Germany, who would invade Colombia at the slightest opportunity.

            Even my relatively progressive family will inevitably say something to the effect of “ever since Petro is in power the country is going to shit” when we have a chat. If I push them on it, they’ll point at crime, the internal conflict getting worse, or prices being high, and refuse to elaborate any further. I’m sure they wouldn’t be dancing in the streets if Bogota got bombed and Petro got got, but they wouldn’t criticize it either. They would say something to the effect of “you know all politicians are criminals, this is what happens when you’re corrupt”.