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    6 days ago

    While  I really hate overpopulation of areas-towns-cities-counties-states-countries is one-thing, because of horrible conditions for The Livable Earth & Living Beings, horrible places for members of our species to live…

    I disagree with this, it is unfair to poorer people that still have to find a way into still overpopulated areas & can be done in other & better ways.
    Overpopulation is the problem & this does not address that problem, just makes it harder for people to get to jobs & other needed activities.

    Starts with raising taxes on Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes, then:
    Condition benefits for having children, so that stops after 1st birthed child & 1st-adopted child,
    No more immigration allowed, no jail in USA-ship back enforcement, but Everyone in USA are legal, no need for any more legal or illegal people in the country crap, Only the vote of the people can any Gov. violence-wars be done,
    All that start any degree of violence-war in another country, just like if it was in The USA, then arrested & appear in court, when convicted go to jail
    & Pay directly every single country’s people (not politicians), we have done violence-wars in their country, $100 of Billions
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    Raise gas prices, like EU,
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    Raise the amount of space, in 3-dimensions (not just on ground level dimension) to building ratio, if the buildings already, then they must be removed. Destroy bad condition buildings, build only replacement buildings elsewhere, where are more space. Also creating more space for green spaces.

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      I disagree with this, it is unfair to poorer people that still have to find a way into still overpopulated areas & can be done in other & better ways.

      That’s not true though, They’re spending the money raised on improving PT. And PT in buses that exisits now will have a better time not being surrounded by the fuckery of cars, also cycling is cheap ! NYC aren’t the Feds, to do anything the need to raise funds, the Feds can run an endless deficient as they own the currency, NYC does not. This doesnt even look to the savings for lowering car use eg health benfits, less polltuon etc

      Overpopulation is the problem & this does not address that problem, just makes it harder for people to get to jobs & other needed activities.

      Sure, on a planet level but even if you did a Thanos and 1/2 the population how are you going to stop say people in various American states moving to NYC ?

      Starts with raising taxes on Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes,

      Agreed but I’d go futher and crimalise being “super rich”.

      Condition benefits for having children, so that stops after 1st birthed child & 1st-adopted child,

      No, you then have an adandoned class of children for anything over 2, birthrate is already well below 2.1 so no further measures are needed there

      No more immigration allowed

      What ? This doesn’t solve anything, it’s like saying no more homlessness is allowed by moving the homeless next city over.

      And what of emigration, fuck people if they want to move to another country ? I see lots of US aged pensioners moving to places like Cambodia, should they be barred ?

      Anyhow, longer term, none of that matters, ignoring climate change as we have will see the collapse of civilisation anyway. No matter how many billions they spend on flood defences, NYC is lost sometime this century.

      • “No more immigration allowed” “What ? This doesn’t solve anything, it’s like saying no more homlessness is allowed by moving the homeless next city over.”

        It is a good point, but you do realize that USA birth rates are low & dropping (compared to other countries), 1st World countries are all having this situation (I think it has to with economics crashing & ‘Global Warming’- I know for me, I will never have any birth children & put them through those evils)! Without outside immigration The USA & all other 1st World countries would be emptying. Everyone is focused on 1st World countries of places like Japan, South Korea & Etc., the perceived negatives of elderly care & Etc., but it is not just such places & really more about not providing good benefits for those that care for them/Capitalism. Good example of this is South Florida has many areas being overpopulated, not by immigration within USA, but outside! If you lived here, you would understand that. You would also know that most of those immigrants (racist, in that if you are Cubans, you have a good chance to have a good life, let alone if you were wealthy when you arrive) are not living good lives at all, especially, now with ‘The Crazy’ administration! As far as immigration within countries, simply, you do population density laws, that make illegal for too many people to exist in areas. With

      • “I disagree with this, it is unfair to poorer people that still have to find a way into still overpopulated areas & can be done in other & better ways.”
        “That’s not true though, They’re spending the money raised on improving PT. And PT in buses that exisits now will have a better time not being surrounded by the fuckery of cars, also cycling is cheap ! NYC aren’t the Feds, to do anything the need to raise funds, the Feds can run an endless deficient as they own the currency, NYC does not. This doesnt even look to the savings for lowering car use eg health benfits, less polltuon”

        About the huge benefits of pedestrian travel over automobiles travel, you are talking to the a huge believer in that! As person who was employed & travelled by bicycle to work, even with the tax benefit employers get for bicycling employees, they dislike the side effects, have to safely store bicycle, when no public bicycle lock setup, wash up before starting work & cannot just be given less time than takes to bicycle to work, to get work (just ones I can think of on top of my head).

        • ”Starts with raising taxes on Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes,”
          “Agreed but I’d go futher and crimalise being “super rich”.”
          Explain what you mean? But that is just the Super Rich Economic Class, what about The Rich Economic Class? If tax at that or even higher you do not criminalize, thought I do not dislike the idea, because taxing, without any allowed loopholes or hiding of wealth in foreign banks & Etc., means they would no longer be able to exist.

          “Condition benefits for having children, so that stops after 1st birthed child & 1st-adopted child,”
          “No, you then have an adandoned class of children for anything over 2, birthrate is already well below 2.1 so no further measures are needed there”

          No actually, you would not, if the governments would take protecting children serious & seriously rehabilitating parents that do not, over just using the police Capitalism army of keeping non-Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes down & manipulated. Plus most importantly 90% taxing of Rich-Super Rich Economic Classes results in trillions of dollars, so there be a ton of money left over & spent extremely efficiently (comes back in profits for the country & thus, more taxes) that other programs fully funded to meet needs would also address such problems. As really all these issues are interconnected, In my other reply,it stated I know about birth rate populations dropping & Etc., but there still are pockets were that is not true at all.

          • “And what of emigration, fuck people if they want to move to another country ? I see lots of US aged pensioners moving to places like Cambodia, should they be barred ?”

            I am keeping it simpler, by talking about The USA, but I would like see it applied to every single country in the world. Let those BLANKING people suffer! You also forgotten about the other elements of the process, for lack of a better word. Giving the people, not the politicians (thanks to The USA, most are just dictatorships or Royal Families), 100s of Billions of their own dollars, means that the reason those emigration/emigrating to poor countries to take advantage of those countries to live like kings & queens (like so many English language old people shows, my parents watch too many of them) would be wiped-out, maybe, take some time, but would happen.

            “Anyhow, longer term, none of that matters, ignoring climate change as we have will see the collapse of civilisation anyway. No matter how many billions they spend on flood defences, NYC is lost sometime this century.“

            I live in Florida & they are saying for sure that Fl. is going to be just super thin strip of land, in dead center & from around Orlando to GA. boarder. Wait man, we all cannot just surrender! While, I do not think The Livable Earth & All Living Beings will survive, but we all cannot just surrender & make it a reality!

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      5 days ago

      This comment is like a bell curve for fascism. Starts out okay, takes a hard right into ecofascism in the middle, then straightens out again at the end.

      What the hell man.