With federal agents storming the streets of American communities, there’s no single right way to approach this dangerous moment. But there are steps you can take to stay safe—and have an impact.

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      People are very deliberately not doing that. The idea (for the moment) is to use civil resistance to limit what ICE can accomplish while not provoking a gun battle where the federal government can outgun any local group

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        Civil resistance isn’t working. The trump government is stomping all over you. Defend yourselves FFS. “Don’t tread on me”.

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          It’s working fine. ICE morale and recruitment are both in the toilet, and it seems like every day we get more incidents of ICE actually being driven off by increasingly savvy local resistance. Meanwhile, every documented incident of unjustified ICE thuggery is driving public opinion further against ICE.

          Honestly, it’s working far better than I would have dared hope. But, as soon as protesters start shooting ICE, public opinion will swing back the other way, and Trump will finally have his justification to fill the streets with actual military.

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      People shooting at, or killing ICE officers is exactly what the regime wants so they can declare martial law.

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    Aim for the pelvis. It isn’t armored, it’s easier to hit than the head, and wounds there can be incapacitating or even fatal.

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      Yes! And it’s easier to watch what thier hands are doing when you aim low! Plus most poeple miss high so your shots will still hit the torso. I started training myself to aim for lower gut, instead of center mass when I target shoot.

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      Unfortunately, that’s hard to do at scale — a small group will be outgunned by the federal government, and a large one infiltrated. People are using nonviolent civil resistance instead for now

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        People are using nonviolent civil resistance instead for now for the last year to absolutely zero effect.

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          Its actually having a rather significant effect of greatly limiting ICE and — in the past few days — convincing the bulk of Democrats that they no longer want to fund ICE and even getting a couple dozen to support impeaching Noem.

          We wont win tomorrow, but we will win over a period of years

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      People are not doing that because any group small enough to be trusted will be outgunned by the federal government

      • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
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        The US was outgunned by the british, they still won. The Vietnamese and apghanis were outgunned by the US, they still won.

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          American losses in revolutionary war, 25k. Vietnamese losses in Vietnam war, 882k. Afghan deaths in US occupation, 241k. These figures don’t include those that died in the societal upheaval that followed.

          Deaths at the hands of ICE, around 30. Public opinion of ICE has plummeted with the majority of Americans actually supporting abolishment. We are getting more and more frequent incidents of residents and protesters sending ICE packing by filming them and asserting their civil rights. ICE in turn is getting more violent, which is only going to drive public opinion and the courts to further oppose them.