There are far more moderate views on here that keep it from being an echo chamber that we don’t need to include nazis

I think its reasonable for me and those i care about to not want to be pressured to debate the morality of our existence in every space, and that is exactly what they want to debate, and for them it’s fun because it does not affect them, but for us it just means another fuckin place that is not safe. It’s not easy to ignore them, and they make sure of that, and tolerating them just enables them to take over spaces.

There are enough liberals (read: centrists) in here that this is a controversial discussion, thats reason enough for me to believe defederating won’t cause this to be an echo chamber.

Oh fuck that makes so much sense now.

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

This was starting to sound like the next rendition of “we didn’t start the fire”

Depends whether he’s been in the black lodge yet or not

Dale Cooper

I wasn’t gonna comment but for sake of diversity I feel you deserve at least one good one. I’m actually quite close with one of my exes from 13 years ago. We dated when I was graduating highschool he broke up with me (very respectfully. He basically just told me I deserved someone who liked me as much as I like them, and he was right).

Anyway, he and I didn’t really hang out much or talk much for a while but we were in the same community and would see each other at metal shows all the time and weren’t unfriendly but would just kind of live our own lives. Once my ego healed a bit from being dumped we did hook up a couple times. Then some time passed and I met my partner of now over a decade. Anyway, me and the ex still chat, he’s met my partner and they get along very well. My ex is a genuinely kind and funny guy and I would be a reference for him any day and I consider him more my friend than my ex at this point.

I really do think time apart is important because they need to become not a constant fixture in your life before you can repair the relationship to “friend” level.

Ok yeah I can see now, thanks!

But my issue is how does one debate someone who doesn’t care about truth or debate regulation or debating in good faith at all? All they do is bowl over people and that just makes them more confidently wrong.

I know you’re not arguing that we should remain federated with them, im just curious why you enjoy debating them because I get so frustrated and I’d much rather not raise my blood pressure unnecessarily so I just don’t get it lol. It feels like a losing game.

Completely agreed. Also history would dictate that giving literal nazis a space/platform with which they can influence people is a bad fuckin idea. We don’t owe them tolerance and they should be censored because they are a cult and don’t intend on good faith discussion.

Call me radical, I’ll say hang loose 🤙

I’ve literally never gone on that instance and have blocked it for obvious reasons, but I’m curious where you got this information from. Like how do you know this, or is it speculation? Or is this a joke that went over my head?

That’s awfully presumptuous of my intentions especially when you have plenty of spaces to be a dick far away from here, you can’t really call being kicked out of a private space for being antisocial censorship just because people won’t listen to you, censorship doesn’t extend to private spaces, because they’re private.

Also lol lmfao at you sharing Karl Popper, who literally was saying we don’t have to tolerate, and in fact should censor people like you because you won’t debate in good faith. Fuckin idiot arguing with yourself gtf outta here.

I’ll be blocking you because I really don’t want or need to ‘debate’ you when your biases are clear. I don’t care what kind of rage-bait you cherry pick.

It’s the tolerance paradox you’ve fallen for there. You can’t tolerate intolerance because then it multiplies, and you do NOT discuss with fascists. They do not discuss in good faith because their very values are based in bad faith. You won’t get me with that.

Also censorship? Give me a fuckin break, nobody censors like fascists do.

Part of fighting fascism is not allowing them to congregate in our spaces because they will inevitably turn it into one of theirs. So no.

aye

Oh my friends and I argue for fun all the time! I actually find it a really forgiving space since we all struggle with things like RSD and I think it helps us learn to communicate when we are feeling things like that.

It’s really refreshing and nice not to have to mask my autism as well.

Its also very interesting because we all have our different special interests to infodump about :) It’s just a really colourful and loving group and it truly feels like a family (tbf we aren’t all autistic but many of us are and even more of us are ND–def over 50%)

You need autistic friends

Lover, You Should’ve Come Over by Jeff Buckley

Following that up with finding out about how he died was pretty heartbreaking. Dude was a legend.

I truly believe everything after Windows XP has been bad.

Oh no being told I’m right is my fetish 👀