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  • I would argue that people didn’t know what it meant, or were in a position where they could not refuse the loan.

    Kids grow up being taught that they had to have a college education to have a good job, and that a good job is necessary to have a good life. Parents and counselors reinforce this, so they have no reasonable means believe otherwise.

    Employers DO require college education more and more. Not all, true, but the competition for those jobs is higher, so expect lower pay and greater difficulties in getting hired. Often that pay is not even enough to make rent. For the rest, the number of people who have a degree is in increasing, so the competition for those jobs is increasing as well, with the same decrease in pay.

    So out of the gate, children are put in a situation where, from everything they can see and are told, they need a degree. But most can’t afford one. Therefore, they are placed in a position where they must take a loan with no guarantee that the degree will get them a job that pays well enough for them to pay back loan.

    So it’s a bit more than “you took a loan, you pay for it.” It better described as “you were cooreced into taking this loan on false pretences presented to you by all of society.” Society should take responsibility for that.



  • While I agree in theory, I’m not really sure there’s much that can be done in practice. The genie is out of the bottle here: jobs want the paper, so people get the paper, leading to jobs expecting people to have the paper. An employer is unlikely to deliberately “lower their standards” (in their view) if the pool of potential employees with a degree is large enough for their needs already. Since you can’t legislate that employers are not allowed to require a degree, and you can’t expect people to not get a degree and sacrifice their own potential future to break that cycle, we’re kind of at an impasse.

    That’s why the only way forward that anyone’s figured out so far is government funded higher education.

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  • It’s good to know that we have advanced as a society. We’re talking about now, not 80 years ago.

    You also seem to be under the impression that making a “correct” choice would be without consequences. It would be nice if the moral or legal choice always had positive consequences for the chooser, but that’s not always the case. That doesn’t chance the morality or legality of the choice. Yes, soldiers have been persecuted for disobeying an illegal order; either legally or socially; but that doesn’t change their duty.

    (Also, David McBride was arrested for releasing confidential documents, something that is very much illegal. We can debate the morality, but that’s not relevant here because it’s not remotely related to a soldier refusing to follow illegal orders.)

    A soldier following an illegal order may lead to people dying unnecessarily, so they are duty bound to not follow illegal orders. A doctor choosing to not treat patients because they don’t like something about them may lead to people dying unnecessarily, so they are duty bound to treat all patients.

    A doctor’s agency does not supersede another’s right to live. A doctor doesn’t get to choose who lives or dies; and yes, even requiring that the doctor refer the patient to a different doctor would result in people dying.



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    Because it was an active investigation. If they released the investigation files, it would have fucked over the court case to convict them. It wasn’t until recently that the Trump-controlled DoJ said “okay, we’re done. Nothing to see here.” Now that there’s no longer an investigation, there’s no longer a reason to withhold the files.

    And before you say that they deliberately took too long to avoid releasing them, remember that the Democrats believed they had time to finish the investigation properly, but Trump’s elections screwed that; and that when dealing with people with this much power, you need a case that is more than air tight, and that takes a lot of time given who is involved. Unless you believe the Democrats could have stalled though a second term (obviously Trump couldn’t).

    Oh, and if the Dems actually wanted to avoid this whole thing, they could have much more believably said “nope, nothing here,” but instead they chose to push forward.