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  • I’ve already met you in the middle, I’m not providing any more information until you answer my question because I don’t believe you’re after a nuanced answer and you haven’t even tried to convince me or entertained anything else I said in my previous comments.

    Give me a good reason why you’re so interested in Chicago over other, worse cities and I’ll bite



  • Yes, you people are asking that to derail from answering the question.

    Who people? Do you think I’ve organised a group of friends to all get on your case about this one particular question, or is it more likely that random individuals have the same issues with your question?

    It’s not an important piece of information unless you don’t want to admit chicago has a problem with violence.

    I think everywhere that has violence has a violence problem. Violence is a problem. Why are you so interested in Chicago’s problem rather than the problem everywhere else?

    Are you trying to argue that the crime rates of other cities mean chicago doesn’t have a problem? Just say so if that’s the case.

    No, I’ve literally already told you that. I’m simply interested in why you’re interested in the 25th (random number) most violent place instead of the most violent place? What is it about Chicago that has got you so interested?


  • I’m not sure why you people think that the crime rates of other cities means chicago doesn’t have a problem

    That isn’t the point people are making. They are wondering what it is about Chicago that made you focus on it rather than other cities that have a higher crime rate.

    It’s an important piece of information you conveniently left out.



  • SomethingBlack@lemmy.worldtoScience Memes@mander.xyzflowers for the lost
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    4 months ago

    I was going to say there’s also the option of in-between but that is dependant on clothing, but you beat me to it 😅

    You’ve convinced me that it’s reasonable that it could effect the outcome. But in that case, we’re averaging out a large variance in size, which as you said (and I agree) could change the outcome dramatically.

    This was my original problem with the “anatomically correct” part of the statement. There is no “anatomically correct” male or female, only approximations. This effectively excludes people at the extremes of physical characteristics from these safety tests


  • so I’m making the fairly safe assumption they put dummies in various different seating arrangements

    The source doesn’t use data from crash test dummies but from real life crashes. So we can’t take seating arrangements for granted if it could meaningfully effect the numbers.

    The stats apparently originate from the US government, so it’s going to be a pretty big sample size that should average out any differences in seating position.

    The sample size is irrelevant if cultural factors exist that could skew the results. Cultural factors like men are more commonly taxi/Uber/bus drivers, men are more likely to drive with their partner as a passenger than the inverse, etc.

    I don’t think there are really any conclusive after stats as the product was only introduced to the market a couple of years ago

    That’s a fair point, I don’t expect there would be enough data for anything conclusive.

    there’s a correlation with male safety improving with advances in the crash test process that aren’t reflected equivalently with women’s safety

    That would be an interesting read. I’ll have a look for it.



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    I appreciate your effort to find that data but it doesn’t really address any of my original questions.

    Also, from what you’ve quoted at least, there is no differentiation between drivers vs passengers.

    Your data absolutely shows there is a problem, it just doesn’t show that the problem is the lack of an “anatomically correct female crash test dummy”.