Yeah, most likely it’s Russian disinformation at some level in the pipeline of extremism

It’s very curious how all extremists end up with the same talking points and views. The antisemitism from tankies is almost identical to neo-nazis, even posting and sharing the same conspiracy theories.

i’d like to tout that this community rarely bans users and has one of the fairest and most lenient ban conditions. we encourage tankies to come and engage

but tankies like to say they get banned for ‘wrongthink’ since it’s easier to lie than admit you can’t handle people criticising your otherwise asinine positions.

and you’re dodging it by taking issue with me calling that imperialism and not agreeing that influence can be good.

Let’s test that.

What influence has the US done that is good? What influence has the West done that is good?

It’s alright, but US defaultism assumes liberalism, conservatism, and capitalism in its examples. It also gives the US greater power and dominance over language and theory.

You’re using Lenin’s definition of imperialism. Lenin’s definition focuses on economic domination, not military or territorial control, so for the PRC’s invasion, which was “liberation,” it’s better to use the modern definition of imperialism, which most people reading this will be doing anyway.

Tibet was also a serfdom, not a slave society, there is a distinct difference. Serfdom binds a person to land. Slavery treats them entirely as movable property. One is labour, one is chains. Calling it liberation is also extremely negligent and steeped in bias, the US military uses this excuse all the time, that they are liberators instead of imperialist forces.

But ultimately this all avoids the question of whether or not the Tibetan population wanted integration with China, that’s the crucial part that makes it imperialist, the inability for the Tibetans to decide for themselves.

Which, again, you’re making a false conflation. We’ve established that Europe is imperialist, yes. We’ve established that the US is imperialist, yes. But then you’re including the PRC in an attempt to make it appear anti-imperialist – Which it mostly wasn’t. It’s a very camp argument. Imperialism is imperialism, it doesn’t matter who’s doing it and for what reason.

Redsails is also not a good source, it’s openly from an ML perspective, so it’s not neutral, which you absolutely have to be when discussing history. It’s also under no pretence to be academic or accurate either, Redsails is ideologically driven rather than factually driven - so it won’t ever be critical of the ML perspective. You can use redsails to talk theory, absolutely, but not as a historical or factual source, it’s dishonest.

China is also not entirely socialist, either, it’s state-capitalist with socialist rhetoric. They still have private property.

Can you not use US defaultism? To me, there’s no difference between Democrats and Republicans, they’re all the same creed of politicians.

You’ll find all countries have engaged in imperialism in one way or another. China towards Tibet, Europe towards Africa, the US currently, well, everyone.

China is not socialist, either, it’s state-capitalist with socialist rhetoric. China is also currently lacking in some social features, particularly full universal healthcare coverage and strong worker rights. Vietnam, however, is quite steady and making great strides. Here’s hoping for more

If you’re anti-imperialist, wouldn’t it make more sense for China and Taiwan to be recognised as two, separate independent nations?

Opposition to imperialism implies opposition to enforced absorption, regardless of who is doing it. If you’re truly anti-imperialist, you shouldn’t take a stance of either side absorbing the other.

have you seen the shit about his wife? what’s her deal?

I’ll await your next reply

The US people will never organise into revolutionaries; they love their subjugation, they love their violence, their entertainment and their products. And the leftists, or whatever kind you want to paint yourself as, are cowardly and weak. You can’t even handle words, and you expect to handle a revolution? The revolution is going to be guts and blood and atrocities tenfold, you’re not going to be a part of it, you’re not going to be a part of this fighting force. Just too young, too delicate.

Nor do I do want the US to organise in said groups anyway, since they won’t ever shut up about it. The rest of the world is sick and tired of your country’s bs and as far as I’m concerned I’m hardpressed to take any yank seriously, including yourself.

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Because people from the US are generally stupid and indoctrinated from an early age to be loyal consumers who never question or ponder the larger world. They are kept distracted by violence and entertainment and are groomed to be products throughout the entirety of their lives, where even their health is a stream of revenue. It’s so prevalent that they can’t even fathom other countries’ histories, cultures or political leanings, they project a cone of us defaultism. They assume the rest of the world must be two-sided like what you’ve described – It’s frustrating. Like, free healthcare is considered a radical idea in your country, that’s fucked!

The US is not a democracy and never really has been.

that’s not what the question was. The question was asking what was the right way for palestine to resist Israeli oppression.

also don’t what?

you don’t even know what my views are :3

Antiyanks is mentally ill, he’s his own master

i’ve tried talking to him before and sometimes got places, but it doesn’t take much until he’s going off again. He’s made approximately 4000 accounts so far, really rather impressive

You’re Puerto Rican? Admittedly, I know little about the history of Puerto Rico

the US is also not a democracy, that’s propaganda.

i don’t much care for israel

but aren’t i showing a spine by engaging with you? politely, might i add

Yeah, those are some of the reasons I hate it as well

How do you feel about yanks tho? Is there a distinction between the US government and its populace or are they all doomed?