Na I’ll always be hostile it’s more fun, I would less hostile if people stop the with telling what works for them, like I’m going to fucking get the same setup as dem. You do understand that there’s more angles than one, and not stopping and thinking yourself about the issue at hand and making weird assumptions without looking up anything, is kinda annoying after a while.

Because that is how most people are on Lemmy, it’s so hard to just have a discussion because you always have some people make counterpoints that fucking suck ass, and not based in anyone else’s reality but their own.

If I wouldn’t be hostile I would just stop writing, and it’s not like I’m angry, it’s just sounds funnier.

No worries, I would like you to have it in written statement.

Well I don’t have GTX 2080ti, and I don’t like my computer sounding like wind turbine for playing a 7 year old game, so those performance benefits means something to me.

Yep, but my laptop I use the igpu

I didn’t say Wayland had bad performance, if you read I said that x11 has better performance. For Wayland being new and more modern it should not underperform and dude just fucking look benchmarks online, you have internet.

Here this one is for free, how you candy read. https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/wayland-vs-x11-performance-amd-graphics.html

I still use x11 with suckless dwm, but for work I’m forced to use Ubuntu 25.10 gnome shit. It’s a sad state. Gnome owns all the process you start via gnome, that is why if gnome dies all the child process es dies as well, genius. Because the buggy mess, doesn’t critical errors and never will have…

I don’t know how you use gnome, if it doesn’t crash for you, fine, good. But that’s not my reality, it can crash because I open the laptop screen while being on an external monitor. It can crash because I’m screen sharing, it can crash because some software I used froze, it can crash for random reason (doesn’t happen often, but still annoying).

The event loop shit is a gnome issue I have, I haven’t tried it with KDE but I wouldn’t be surprised if the issue remains, where if you are switching windows/workspace to often the gnome event loop doesn’t register that you have released the key because it’s to busy fucking rendering the window/ Workspace switch.

We obviously don’t have the same use case, so if it works for you all power to you. But it sucks balls, the way I like use my laptop when I’m working. Can’t even do simple shit as to rebind a key, please find a working guide for kde or gnome, surprise they don’t work, and it’s fucking baffling the amount of different guides of how change keybindings and how many steps they require you do to, but they even work, why is that?

Why doesn’t Wayland support fucking a config file, where you define key bindings, why does it not allow to copy shit from the terminal via xclip or any other method, it’s like we went back 50 years in time, dude these tools existed 25 years ago.

Wtf is this, it’s lacking so much functionality and also performance is worse, you get more performance from xserver like 20% more fps, just try playing a game and turn on the fps meter, and compare them. Wtf is this, how do you build something new based on prior knowledge but it’s worse.

Yeah sure, if you don’t anything with it

Wayland is a protocol, and major desktop versions like gnome and Kde implementation sucks balls…

Desktop crashes, oh there goes all my applikations that I started, gnome can’t keep up with switching workspaces because doesn’t fucking register the release key event. Fuck me dude xorg had no issues with switching windows or crashed barely crashed, gnome crashes 2 times a day. Oh sorry dude you want to use a custom screenshot tool, sorry dude, can’t allow that, have to do some weird workaround.

Oh you want change keybindings, no sorry dude can’t don’t support it.

Oh you wanted to automate window/workspace switching via scripts, you have inject fucking JavaScript into our runtime to query windows ids and state…

Jesus what joke of an implementation, it’s the anti theist of Linux. Everyone got fooled and allowed GUI developers implement the rendering backend…

And the best of all: hey do you want make software for Linux, sorry you app doesn’t work in KDE because the whole implementation of functionality you’re using is different from other Wayland implementation, can you plz fix in kde and gnome?

What do you mean, you are going to be not okej with what? That someone made something that they want to sell…

Dude you are exhausting, you live in a fantasy world.

Unlike you people try to find work they enjoy, either you haven’t worked a day in your life, or you are jealous of people having a better job than you.

You can’t even fathom that some people are not employable, there’s 1000s of reasons why some people can’t hold a regular job or find a employer that will employ them. But hey, fuck them right

You don’t own or get to decide what people can sell or not, your talking about some fucking community that is filled with shit as is, and I would bet my life on that you don’t even contribute to said community that you hold so dear. You’re just a leech, prove me wrong.

Yes and so what, toxicity exists in any community you goof, I don’t know what your point is. That paying for stuff is bad, or asking to be paid for your work is bad, or wanting money is bad.

You lack empathy towards people who make mods, what if it’s their only source of income, what if they spend a lot of time making the mod as good as possible so you will want to pay for it. Jesus Christ you’re some kind of idealist there’s no grayzone everything is the extreme with you

What kind of argument is this, spreading malware is illegal. And how does that reflect on the game studio; none at all. The mod you are proposing is illegal, no you are not allowed to spread malware via mods, what do you want me to say?

For arguments sake spreading malware via mods is legal, does it reflect bad on the game studio? No, not if you are older than 10 dude, if you don’t know the difference between original content and user made content, you will probably have a hard time installing a mod.

If I spread malware via images of La Lakers, does that reflect bad on LA Lakers.

You do realize that cd projekt red are doing a DMCA request, because it’s a logical economical choice for them, and has nothing to do with the quality of work. Because the mod is only enabling people to play with VR. And CD project red has the benefit either A modder gives it out for free, CD project red gets free content, B they can after a while release their own paid version of Cyberpunk with VR (like 50 other game titles).

There’s no legal basis for the DMCA, the guy says he can’t afford a legal battle with a huge company.

You want everyone else to make sacrifices but not you, you just want shit for free. What competition exists in the modding community? No one is stopping you from or anyone else from making a VR mod for cyberpunk for free. Surely it would be more popular than the paid version, but why doesn’t it exist? Because it requires maintenance and active development and knowledge about how VR works, and no one is interested in spending that time making a free VR mod for cyberpunk, you would have to be an autists to feel it’s time worth spending.

How is wanting to get paid and loving the game mutual exclusive. They are more part of the community than 99% of the community, you make it sound like it’s easy, they have invested their own time and skills to make mods that people are willing to pay for.

Stop being so judgemental, you don’t know them or why they are developing mods. Maybe they want to make a living or extra money by working on something they like. You don’t have to buy the mods they develop if you don’t like paying for mods or if it goes against your own principals. They aren’t trying to force you to buy their mods. I myself never play games with mods, because it’s a hassle and doesn’t make my gaming experience any better.

What are you talking about, have you ever heard of after market products. There’s a reason why certain industries design there products to allow third party vendors to sell after market components, it makes them more popular by consumers.

Dude you are just making shit up as you go, what you are saying makes no sense.

I extend functionality of existing software products for B2B as a living, no one would buy their products if they didn’t allow them to be extended.

In what way was it good for the community when they removed the mods that you had to pay for? It’s not like the developers of the mods will do it for free, and no is stopping you from making a free version of said mods.

You people live in a fantasy world, how the does one who can’t make a game make a game. That’s a lot of work, what is the issue with piggybacking from another ones work if it benefits both parties.

Give me a scenario where it hurts the original developers, a real scenario.

Making money of someone else’s work is the whole economy, that’s not an argument. I can understand if it’s taking money from the original developers but is definitely not the case.

In what way is it not fair? The game developer has full control over the game and the API it allows modders to use to make mods.

Is it that you are taking the money from the developers? Because you still need to buy the game, if anything the modding community makes the game more attractive to buy.

So what is the unfairness in the case of a modder wants to sell his mods?