ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]

  • 17 Posts
  • 158 Comments
Joined 5 years ago
cake
Cake day: July 29th, 2020

help-circle









  • That would be how I’d envision it as well. Starting from a “first principle” is always good. It’s a bit long/dense, but god, I just started re-reading and it remains so good.

    As soon as the native begins to pull on his moorings, and to cause anxiety to the settler, he is handed over to well-meaning souls who in cultural congresses point out to him the specificity and wealth of Western values. But every time Western values are mentioned they produce in the native a sort of stiffening or muscular lockjaw. During the period of decolonization, the natives’s reason is appealed to. He is offered definite values, he is told frequently that decolonization need not mean regression, and that he must put his trust in qualities which are welltried, solid, and highly esteemed. But it so happens that when the native hears a speech about Western culture he pulls out his knife–or at least he makes sure it is within reach. The violence with which the supremacy of white values is affirmed and the aggressiveness which has permeated the victory of these values over the ways of life and of thought of the native mean that, in revenge, the native laughs in mockery when Western values are mentioned in front of him.

    I actually might have the power to make you a mod, I’m going to try now.

    It seems it worked. Enjoy your mod powers here, and just be sure to moderate the anti-sectarian rules since I think that’s the real key. stalin-gun-1 stalin-gun-2

    Pinned this for now.


  • I would just propose the first chapter of The Wretched of the Earth “Concerning Violence” as a supplement to remind folks that in a decolonial struggle we can’t possibly moralize on this issue (and I think in general Hexbears get this, but it might be good for folks from other parts of the Fedi who happen across the threads). It’s obviously not specifically anti-zionist, but rather might help explain why we support the axis of resistance.

    It’s also just an absolute banger, and a “crowd pleaser”, as it were. I never tire of reading it, personally, but that’s just me. If the majority of folks don’t want to read it, don’t. I’ll also be on call for this thread (and any future threads) - just shoot me a PM or @me. I’ll try to keep things under control, though I can’t be available 24/7, I usually log in daily at least.



  • I mean, I’m totally cool with it as long as the reading list is solid (e.g. let’s make sure we’re not including anything that could be construed as right wing. I’d say keeping it canonically leftist would be a very easy way to approach this. If someone wants to claim that Edward fucking Said is anti-Semitic, I’m ready to fucking rumble, but figures that are not traditionally “left” might be a trickier proposition). Also, the important thing would be that any debate is done good faith and in a spirit of comradeship. I don’t want the comm turning into some permanent saltfest. As long as you can set some groundrules for the thread to avoid toxicity, I wouldn’t mind stickying an anti-zionist reading group each week or whenever you want to do it. My thoughts is to start off with something like this (and please, adapt them how you want to - this is just a suggestion):

    1. No zionism or defenses of zionism.

    2. No jacketing people as zionists (liberal or otherwise).1

    3. Disagreement should be done at the level of the text.

    This is just me spitballing (I’m unfortunately very busy these days trying to get a job that won’t lay me off, sorry comrades) - but I would just want the conversation to center the texts that you choose to read. Also, I’m one of those “community” mods (I was appointed to sticky my reading lists back in the day), so @[email protected] might want to weigh in as well. Still, I’d be happy to be a mod on call (I don’t have time to read the threads each day, sadly). I think as long as we quickly deal with shit, it would help. I know a few times the “Revolutionary Adventurism” thread got up to the line, but warning someone over DM before they cross the line can usually call (good faith) comrades back.

    @[email protected] Why don’t you post a thread with a preliminary reading list and let other comrades weigh in? You might also collab with @[email protected] who’s running the Imperialism reading group.

    1My reasoning: as long as folks are following rule 1, then we need to try and educate and converse in good faith. However, it’s a tricky line, and I think the real issue would be if people start trying to really push to the edges of acceptability.






  • This is pretty much it. Brandon being a husk really meant that what “normally” (and btw, would have still been horrible ethnic cleansing and barbarism) would have ended after a month or two of slaughter (e.g. Reagan) instead became a 2 year genocide. The degree to which “liberal” institutions in the US have de legitimized themselves over this is almost comical, and I think under the truth serum no US politician or figure of note (barring total freaks) would say that what’s happened has been in the US’ interests.

    Indeed, the degree to which public speech has been made to “fit” the Israeli policy of genocide means that a lot of American institutions are now at a hinge point where they might be broken and transformed (if you want to be a little bloomer about something so horrible), but to what end of course is yet to be determined.

    It’s still (and always will be) socialism or barbarism.