• 474D@lemmy.world
    25·
    22 days ago

    Intelligence doesn’t teach effort. It can even stifle it. And effort can overcome mountains. But that’s not what they taught us. I wish I had more chances to be. I’ll be honest, I tried editing this a bunch of times, I’m not gonna be able to express it right

    • The_v@lemmy.world
      6·
      21 days ago

      First off the main component that schools classify intelligence by is memory processing. In “gifted students” it takes 2 or less repetitions of information for the student to recall it. In average students it takes 7-12 repetitions. In below average students it takes 15+ repetitions.

      Highly intelligent kids in school do a lot less work/effort than bright or average intellegent ones. They don’t to put much effort into repetition to outperform everyone.

      When lots of effort is required later on in life, the highly intelligent ones often fall behind.

      In my opinion the graph is wrong on the top. Excellence is usually the higher than average intelligent people, not the top end intelligent ones.

      Most graduate students are from bright/average students. They are the ones with the combination of intelligence and effort to succeed.

    • i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      4·
      22 days ago

      I think I know what you’re saying. Hope you don’t mind if I take a stab at it.

      Knowing failure and overcoming challenges is a skill. A skill that often is underdeveloped by intelligent people in their youth because of being naturally ahead of their peers early on. Some intelligent people finally hit a challenge where they need this skill later on in an environment that is less forgiving (like in college) and absolutely flounder.

  • devxyn@sh.itjust.works
    231·
    22 days ago

    lets be honest, we all think we’re in the blue, when we’re probably in the mid low yellow

    • stretch2m@infosec.pub
      38·
      22 days ago

      As a child, my school evaluated all students’ IQs, and the ones above a certain score were labeled “MGM” (mentally gifted minors) and put into “gifted” classes. Nothing has held me back more in life than being told I’m objectively smarter than someone else.

      It has taken years to respect the virtue of discipline in learning. Throughout school, and then into adult life, if something didn’t come easily to me, I would abandon it instantly, because the notion of having to work for a skill was so foreign to me.

      We should never praise the child (you’re so smart), we should praise their effort (great work on this).

      • WIZARD POPE💫@lemmy.world
        9·
        22 days ago

        Yeah same here. It fucks you up. Bothing wrong with evaluating children to see who might struggle and who might have an easier time. But these separate classes and being told that the classes are gifted is the issue.

      • SeductiveTortoise@piefed.socialEnglish
        3·
        22 days ago

        I always struggled feeling dumb for the things i didn’t know while watching the friends my sister had - who absolutely knew for certain they were the smartest people around - trying to eat glue.

    • CheeseNoodle@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      22 days ago

      I feel like as a kid I was in the mid/low yellow and now I’m in the blue and that’s probably true for basically everyone because we centre education right in the part of our lives when we’re least motivated to learn things. Now I’m actually mature enough to understand how cool things like history and mathematics can be but I’m also past any form of public education.

  • Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    12·
    22 days ago

    I’m smart enough to understand that even if I “fix” my “deficiencies”, all I’d be doing is contribute to a fucked up society.

    I’m not deficient, whatever all this is, is.

    • TheSambassador@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      21 days ago

      Maybe contribute to the not-fucked-up parts of society. Help individuals. Do what you can for those around you. We’ve never lived in a time where humans are more aware of humanity’s worst actions than we do today, but humans have always been doing fucked up shit, along with really awesome shit, forever.

      • Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        5·
        21 days ago

        Implying that I’m not doing that?

        “What I can” is just not enough to stay successfully employed. That’s what this kind of comic is about, it’s not about not doing what you can, it’s about “not feeling like a ultra productive (for capitalism) genius”.

  • Tanis Nikana@lemmy.world
    9·
    22 days ago

    I was told, when I was younger, that I had to slow down and blend my performance into that of the rest of the class; I stuck out.

    When I entered middle school, I didn’t know English so I was put in remedial classes for everything and generally sent to special education and ESL classes until I sorted my shit out.

    When I was in high school, I got Cs and Bs, the very tippy top of the bell curve.

    So I have no idea where the fuck I am. And it doesn’t matter.

    The only thing that matters is that maybe if I get off my ass (I don’t) and do something about it (I can’t), I would be somebody (I won’t).

    Ask yourself if assal horizontology is right for you.

  • Xanthrax@lemmy.world
    3·
    22 days ago

    I tried to make a redundant comment about being clever and how thats short sighted… dog, it’s too true.

  • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
    2·
    22 days ago

    You know, I’ve rarely felt too stupid to understand something, but I’ve felt too ignorant to understand something many, many times. Similarly, I’ve met people who seemed dumb, but who were extremely capable of precise calculations and able to account for all relevant factors in their specialty.