I kinda miss a few opinions on the topic of “screw taste” here. 🥲

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  • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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    you take that back about the square drive and pin that shit on the phillips head

    context: the square drive was designed as a universal open standard for affixing things to other things. the phillips head was designed as a cheap alternative to torque wrenches

    • burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de
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      22 hours ago

      Designed as? No, it was a happy accident. The original patent mentioned nothing about it, and then when they realized they could make that claim the patent was updated.

      Fuck phillip head everything.

    • flesh@lemmy.zip
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      22 hours ago

      Square bit as the go-to general purpose bit is the correct opinion. Every time I have to pull my square bit off to put a Philips on I am just disappointed.

  • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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    Phillips strips because it was designed to. Literally. And I fucking hate it.

    Slotted is a bitch unless you have the motor skills of a neurosurgeon.

    All tamper screws are offensive to me on a religious/spiritual level.

    • rtxn@lemmy.world
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      It wasn’t designed to strip when overtorqued. It’s a myth with no evidence. The original patent says nothing about it (I’ve read the whole patent), and later patents list it as post-hoc justification for a design fault.

      • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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        Really? We were actually taught this in college but come to think of it I never did read the fucking patent.

        Look, what’s important is we all seamlessly transition to Robertson screws….

        (Honestly I’m convinced it’s just spite for Canada that we haven’t already)

        • rtxn@lemmy.world
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          Add it to the list of reasons to hate Henry Ford. When he needed a new screw standard to replace slotted screws in his factories, he went to Robertson first, but he wasn’t willing to sell production rights to Ford. His second choice, Phillips, took the offer. Phillips and similar cruciform screw heads (Pozidriv and JIS, both of which are superior to Phillips) proliferated globally because of this, and it would take a massive shift in the industry today to fully transition to Robertson or Torx.

  • KnoLord@lemmy.zip
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    Nah, I love me some Torx (especially T15 or T20), and maybe Pozi, if you need a cross-slit screw head, but plain PH? Miss me with that.

  • Alpha71@lemmy.world
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    It’s not square, it’s ROBERTSON!!! A gift from Canadians to the world, and everyone else decides that, no. Easily strippable screw heads are better…

  • Remy Rose@piefed.social
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    No mention of Oval drive? As much as I normally hate security fasteners, I love those for being hilarious. At first glance it appears roughly circular, you’d be like “well this is a nail, or a rivet or something”. But no, actually you can unscrew it!

    • heatofignition@lemmy.world
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      17 hours ago

      Yeah, but unfortunately it has to protrude from the surface because the bit grabs the outside, which means you can also grab it with pliers. Not the best feature for a “security” fastener.

      • Remy Rose@piefed.social
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        Omg you’re right!! I didn’t think about that at all… It’d be difficult but certainly doable.

        You could reverse it so the socket is on the screw instead, but then it might be slightly more obvious that it is a screw. Also nobody makes those, to my knowledge.

      • Remy Rose@piefed.social
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        Right?! And yet AFAIK there is exactly one (now defunct) company who ever used them. I guess it’s time to be the change we want to see in the world 😈

        • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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          Phillips exists to auto center and prevent over tightening. This auto centers but doesn’t prevent overtighteninf so you can theoretically torque the head right off. Otherwise it’s great.

          • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            and prevent over tightening

            That’s a funny way of saying “it’s designed to strip out and become unusable as easily as possible”, but to each their own.

            • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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              Oh it absolutly does that, which is why I hate it, but it was intended to so exactly that for a different reason.

  • Gladaed@feddit.org
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    Robertson and hex are fine. In the far reaches of the world those can be quite common.

    • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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      There is absolutely nothing anti-tamper about this screw either. Seriously. It’s just an annoying inconvenience and will be replaced with a standard screw with the same thread by the first mechanics to see it.

      I suspect that’s the real reason BMW is pulling this. They want to pull a warrantee void if seal is broken end run around magnussum-moss and will need to be slapped around again.

      • scala@lemmy.ml
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        Yup. Has to be some bullshit to charge more for service, and prevent self maintenance.

  • uberfreeza@lemmy.world
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    spanner is pretty tasty usually for me but phillips and slotted depends on where it was. id argue thats propaganda since its seen everywhere. specialized screws i think are usually upkept well enough to be tasty.

  • Passerby6497@lemmy.world
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    Kinda surprised this wasn’t a gender comic. I half expected the corpo propaganda label to be mental illness lol

    And torx is the tastiest screw, fight me

    • ThePuy@feddit.nl
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      I won’t fight you brother, I will join you, torx is the best screw, doesn’t strip, Philips is literally built to slip under pressure